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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 9719769" data-attributes="member: 4534"><p>It's really not a very big, complex issue. What's the difference between a lie and incorrect information? Intent. A lie is told with the <u>intent</u> to deceive. If you ask me for directions to the nearest gas station and I tell you take a left on Broadway when in reality you should have taken a right, did I lie? Maybe. I could be a jerk who thinks giving you wrong directions is funny. Or perhaps when I told you left I meant to say right and my faulty directions was simply an honest mistake. Whether I lied or was mistaken, the results were the same, you were sent in the wrong direction to find the gas station. Do you understand why it's not necessarily appropriate to call someone a liar because the information given to you was incorrect? </p><p></p><p>Gaslighting is similar. A simple disagreement, even if one party insists they are correct and the other wrong, is not gaslighting. If you want to say someone is gaslighting then make sure you mean it because you're saying they're deliberately deceitful and manipulative. Which is why I'm not going to say anyone here is gaslighting me on what gaslighting is. </p><p></p><p>I'm going to go ahead and drop this hijack. Feel free to keep using gaslighting how you see fit and I will just accept that I can't be sure if you're talking about a simple disagreement or an actual attempt at gaslighting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 9719769, member: 4534"] It's really not a very big, complex issue. What's the difference between a lie and incorrect information? Intent. A lie is told with the [U]intent[/U] to deceive. If you ask me for directions to the nearest gas station and I tell you take a left on Broadway when in reality you should have taken a right, did I lie? Maybe. I could be a jerk who thinks giving you wrong directions is funny. Or perhaps when I told you left I meant to say right and my faulty directions was simply an honest mistake. Whether I lied or was mistaken, the results were the same, you were sent in the wrong direction to find the gas station. Do you understand why it's not necessarily appropriate to call someone a liar because the information given to you was incorrect? Gaslighting is similar. A simple disagreement, even if one party insists they are correct and the other wrong, is not gaslighting. If you want to say someone is gaslighting then make sure you mean it because you're saying they're deliberately deceitful and manipulative. Which is why I'm not going to say anyone here is gaslighting me on what gaslighting is. I'm going to go ahead and drop this hijack. Feel free to keep using gaslighting how you see fit and I will just accept that I can't be sure if you're talking about a simple disagreement or an actual attempt at gaslighting. [/QUOTE]
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