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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 1624969" data-attributes="member: 1165">As others have pointed out, a 12th-level NPC fighter is not a CR 12 appropriate challenge. Just like a giant, he is easily neutralized by Reflex and Will save spells (Otiluke's Resilient Sphere) and he can't cast spells. The giant has even fewer items than the fighter does. He might have a Potion of See Invisibility but that doesn't make his ranged attacks nearly as useful as his melee attacks.Worse, a lot of his power is tied up with equipment, which is decidedly less than what a 12th-level player gets. If you want to play a setting where NPCs and PCs have equal power, I suggest taking a look at D20 Modern or other low-item settings.For good giant-killing tactics, just read any fantasy novel where giants are used as opponents. The closest thing I've seen to a "beat-or-be-beat" encounter against giants involved a gladiator using Combat Expertise to not get hit (while slicing up their legs to fell them).</blockquote>