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<blockquote data-quote="Terramotus" data-source="post: 3925370" data-attributes="member: 7220"><p>To the extent that they hinder adoption of 4E on its own merits, yes. Absolutely. For those that are in love with a previous iteration of the ruleset, they've bought all that they need to keep running it (or all that is likely ever to be published). That's not a bad thing, but they're no longer buying new D&D books, but they're keeping their old version of the ruleset alive.</p><p></p><p>However, for publishing Dungeons and Dragons to remain a going concern, new books need to be sold. And if the market for a previous edition has played out, then a new edition has to be sold. So, to the extent that grognards prevent adoption of 4E, they absolutely are damaging the health of D&D.</p><p></p><p>And, honestly, I believe that if you're someone who's still totally in love with an older edition, you need to recuse yourself from discussions of 4E if all you can manage is to spew bile. Let the new shiny come out and let those younger than you find the game. Let those who are excited about the changes read the dribs and drabs of information that come out and discuss them without having to wade through all the bitterness.</p><p></p><p>Because, I'll tell you what: if you're still in love with a previous edition to the point that it approaches perfection in gaming for you, then this isn't for you. You may be a little disappointed at the lack of continuing support, but if the existing game is that perfect, it doesn't really need much more support, does it? If you're a 3E diehard, what percentage of the newer books have you honestly bought, anyway? If your favorite flavor is older, well... sometimes the things we like aren't commercially viable.</p><p></p><p>Let the game move on, but don't demand that everyone remain loyal to your decision to remain with the older product. Analyze the information and decide if you will purchase the new product, and let it stop there if you still hate it. If there's no hope of Wizards winning you over with 4E, don't pollute the places where people get their information. Wishing the new product to fail is, to me, childish and petty.</p><p></p><p>This may mean that it becomes difficult to find people to play the older version with, or to discuss it with. Well, that's life. It happens to everybody in some form sooner or later. Sometimes trends pass you by as you get older. Do you listen to the same music that kids in high school listen to now, with the same appreciation they hold for it?</p><p></p><p>To those who are utterly opposed to 4E, and are working to convince others of the same so that the new edition fails (and I've seen people posting all over whose admitted mission is just that), ask yourself this: are you really sure that you'd like to see D&D fail just because it's not being played in the way that you have always played it? It may fail anyway (though I doubt it), but at least give it the shot to do so on its own terms.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terramotus, post: 3925370, member: 7220"] To the extent that they hinder adoption of 4E on its own merits, yes. Absolutely. For those that are in love with a previous iteration of the ruleset, they've bought all that they need to keep running it (or all that is likely ever to be published). That's not a bad thing, but they're no longer buying new D&D books, but they're keeping their old version of the ruleset alive. However, for publishing Dungeons and Dragons to remain a going concern, new books need to be sold. And if the market for a previous edition has played out, then a new edition has to be sold. So, to the extent that grognards prevent adoption of 4E, they absolutely are damaging the health of D&D. And, honestly, I believe that if you're someone who's still totally in love with an older edition, you need to recuse yourself from discussions of 4E if all you can manage is to spew bile. Let the new shiny come out and let those younger than you find the game. Let those who are excited about the changes read the dribs and drabs of information that come out and discuss them without having to wade through all the bitterness. Because, I'll tell you what: if you're still in love with a previous edition to the point that it approaches perfection in gaming for you, then this isn't for you. You may be a little disappointed at the lack of continuing support, but if the existing game is that perfect, it doesn't really need much more support, does it? If you're a 3E diehard, what percentage of the newer books have you honestly bought, anyway? If your favorite flavor is older, well... sometimes the things we like aren't commercially viable. Let the game move on, but don't demand that everyone remain loyal to your decision to remain with the older product. Analyze the information and decide if you will purchase the new product, and let it stop there if you still hate it. If there's no hope of Wizards winning you over with 4E, don't pollute the places where people get their information. Wishing the new product to fail is, to me, childish and petty. This may mean that it becomes difficult to find people to play the older version with, or to discuss it with. Well, that's life. It happens to everybody in some form sooner or later. Sometimes trends pass you by as you get older. Do you listen to the same music that kids in high school listen to now, with the same appreciation they hold for it? To those who are utterly opposed to 4E, and are working to convince others of the same so that the new edition fails (and I've seen people posting all over whose admitted mission is just that), ask yourself this: are you really sure that you'd like to see D&D fail just because it's not being played in the way that you have always played it? It may fail anyway (though I doubt it), but at least give it the shot to do so on its own terms. [/QUOTE]
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