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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turanil" data-source="post: 3925452" data-attributes="member: 9646">I am one of those old grognards...  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> So, if I understand well, if a company (any company) releases a product, and that customers don't like the product and don't buy it, it's thus the customers' fault if the company fails? They should be blamed if the company fails? And why not being sued for not buying something you don't like? As for 4e, I think that the hate originates from this: even if most publishers are in the business to make money, or at least must be profitable to continue, Hasbro/WotC seems to go over the top with what seems to be just another money-grab scheme. When 3e came out, there was almost a need for it, as TSR was dead and AD&D broken. But then, there was 3.5 very quickly, and even more books released. Many 3e players did cringe at what they already perceived as a trick to draw more money from their wallet (even if of course nobody is obliged to buy anything). And now that most 3e gamers have bought A LOT of 3.5 books, and that WotC doesn't know what to publish more, WotC comes and says: "forget about it, that game is broken, you are going to purchase all that great new 4e stuff now." In fact 4e is a new and different game, and as such there is nothing wrong with it, especially if it pleases a lot of people. However, it's called D&D just because as such it should sell more, and they clearly tell us there will be even more stuff to buy with it, with new core books every year, etc. I am convinced you just rename 4e differently (Paragons of Power) and don't already push the splutter of endless additional things to purchase beyond the three core books, and the hate will quickly disappear.</blockquote>

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