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<blockquote data-quote="Toryx" data-source="post: 3928644" data-attributes="member: 56441"><p>I disagree. D&D has long been an evolving, growing system. For all the changes that are being made now for 4th edition (that we know of primarily from rumor), I don't think they're so great as people are making it out to be. As someone who played D&D before AD&D and has subsequently played every version, I'd have to say that 3.5 is hugely different from the first system I've played. There have been a lot of changes and a lot of sacrifices all along. Some for the better, some for the worse, but the game is still here all these years later.</p><p></p><p>I'd also say that the numbers of players I've encountered since 3rd edition was released are far larger than any period since the '70's, and probably substantially larger than even when it was the new thing riding the wave of the success of The Lord of the Rings. It's the reasons for WoW and all the other MMORGs people are always freaking out about, and the fact that so new players are getting involved that a ridiculous term like "Grognard" can come into use illustrates that it's success is as much because it appeals to so many different people as anything else.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to diminish the importance of the old timers. It's significant too. But there isn't such a huge risk in making large changes to the game. 30 years of changes bears that out, and the substantial numbers of new players to the game who have still played older systems like 1st ed. are also testaments to that. </p><p></p><p>No one's killing the game, and even if 4th edition turned out to be crap, it still wouldn't be dead. You'd still have your contingents across the world sticking with 1st edition, 2nd edition, and 3.5. And I bet there will always be a group of people who hang onto 4th edition with just as much fervor. D&D satisfies a lot of different requirements, and that's what keeps it going. As long as there are players, young and old, who are taking time to argue about it as passionately as people have around here since the Announcement, that'll remain true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toryx, post: 3928644, member: 56441"] I disagree. D&D has long been an evolving, growing system. For all the changes that are being made now for 4th edition (that we know of primarily from rumor), I don't think they're so great as people are making it out to be. As someone who played D&D before AD&D and has subsequently played every version, I'd have to say that 3.5 is hugely different from the first system I've played. There have been a lot of changes and a lot of sacrifices all along. Some for the better, some for the worse, but the game is still here all these years later. I'd also say that the numbers of players I've encountered since 3rd edition was released are far larger than any period since the '70's, and probably substantially larger than even when it was the new thing riding the wave of the success of The Lord of the Rings. It's the reasons for WoW and all the other MMORGs people are always freaking out about, and the fact that so new players are getting involved that a ridiculous term like "Grognard" can come into use illustrates that it's success is as much because it appeals to so many different people as anything else. I'm not trying to diminish the importance of the old timers. It's significant too. But there isn't such a huge risk in making large changes to the game. 30 years of changes bears that out, and the substantial numbers of new players to the game who have still played older systems like 1st ed. are also testaments to that. No one's killing the game, and even if 4th edition turned out to be crap, it still wouldn't be dead. You'd still have your contingents across the world sticking with 1st edition, 2nd edition, and 3.5. And I bet there will always be a group of people who hang onto 4th edition with just as much fervor. D&D satisfies a lot of different requirements, and that's what keeps it going. As long as there are players, young and old, who are taking time to argue about it as passionately as people have around here since the Announcement, that'll remain true. [/QUOTE]
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