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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 3928686" data-attributes="member: 9053">Well there is a reason I had some of the specifics in the bet that I did. I certainly don't believe that someone who's playing OE at the moment will be won over to 4E very easily, but I'm going to maintain a very high level of confidence that the people who are playing 3.5 at the moment will almost completely pick up 4E and run with it. I say this both because it's shiny but also because I'm confident it will be good. I'm of the opinion that the "marketing" we've seen for 4E up until now has been extremely bad, largely because it hasn't been coordinated or given real crunch. The designers who have been talking recently are game designers, and not marketing or publicity people. That's a good thing, though: the skills to market and create publicity for a product are very different than those necessary to create it. I'd say they're actually polar opposites. So let's hope WotC gets a real marketing plan going soon, so we can settle down a bit.If it turns out that 4E is a big old steaming pile of poo, not only will I admit to being wrong, I'll certainly join people in developing the game along the lines of the 3.75 model we've been hearing about. I'm very confident that won't happen, because the designers who are making the game are just too good for that.That's just my opinion and all that implies...--Steve</blockquote>