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<blockquote data-quote="Failed Saving Throw" data-source="post: 3929773" data-attributes="member: 45116"><p>I can't help but feel that a lot of these arguments are just silly. It all boils down to this: Play what you want. Most people I know do. There are people who still play 1E, 2E, and there will be people who dismiss 4E and stick with 3.5. And why not? There's enough stuff out there for 3.5 to play dozens of campaigns, enough to last you decades. </p><p></p><p>You have to expect WoTC to put out new products, because it's a company that needs to make money. Also you should hope that instead of just treading water and releasing 20 years of 3.5 splatbooks, they would put some effort into change and innovation.</p><p></p><p>It's a pretty simple process. Review 4E when it comes out. If you don't like, don't play it, and stick with 3.5. If you do like, keep going with it. Why all the angst, the endless flamewar threads, etc.? It all seems like such a waste to me.</p><p></p><p>Even the term "grognard" - geez people. I'm sure many of you have other hobbies. Look at music, for example. There are older guitar players who want nothing more than that standard old Fender Telecaster through an old Fender amp, and they're happy. Then there are the younger players who want that VG Strat and the newest digital modeling amp. If you step back and look at it globally, it's a positive thing to have currents of traditionalism and innovation co-exist. The key is respect. Older players who pine for the days of 1E don't "bring D&D down" any more than groups of young players coming into the hobby who carry new influences from video games and other RPG systems. </p><p></p><p>Stasis breeds stagnation. The unwillingness to take a risk and innovate leads to narrow, dogmatic thinking that ultimately tends to rot many things from within. So I'm pretty excited about 4E. I plan to buy the first rounds of books and gauge how I feel. If it sucks, well, I have a whole bookshelf right here of 3.5 stuff. I have my current group of players who all love 3.5. I think I'll be fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Failed Saving Throw, post: 3929773, member: 45116"] I can't help but feel that a lot of these arguments are just silly. It all boils down to this: Play what you want. Most people I know do. There are people who still play 1E, 2E, and there will be people who dismiss 4E and stick with 3.5. And why not? There's enough stuff out there for 3.5 to play dozens of campaigns, enough to last you decades. You have to expect WoTC to put out new products, because it's a company that needs to make money. Also you should hope that instead of just treading water and releasing 20 years of 3.5 splatbooks, they would put some effort into change and innovation. It's a pretty simple process. Review 4E when it comes out. If you don't like, don't play it, and stick with 3.5. If you do like, keep going with it. Why all the angst, the endless flamewar threads, etc.? It all seems like such a waste to me. Even the term "grognard" - geez people. I'm sure many of you have other hobbies. Look at music, for example. There are older guitar players who want nothing more than that standard old Fender Telecaster through an old Fender amp, and they're happy. Then there are the younger players who want that VG Strat and the newest digital modeling amp. If you step back and look at it globally, it's a positive thing to have currents of traditionalism and innovation co-exist. The key is respect. Older players who pine for the days of 1E don't "bring D&D down" any more than groups of young players coming into the hobby who carry new influences from video games and other RPG systems. Stasis breeds stagnation. The unwillingness to take a risk and innovate leads to narrow, dogmatic thinking that ultimately tends to rot many things from within. So I'm pretty excited about 4E. I plan to buy the first rounds of books and gauge how I feel. If it sucks, well, I have a whole bookshelf right here of 3.5 stuff. I have my current group of players who all love 3.5. I think I'll be fine. [/QUOTE]
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