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<blockquote data-quote="baradtgnome" data-source="post: 3930150" data-attributes="member: 2722"><p>True enough. Half my gaming group is AARP material.</p><p></p><p> As someone who was once 22, and now <ahem> a little more than forty I don't see it as bad. I trust you will live to be on this side of the discussion some day, and still be able to enjoy the hobby if you choose.</p><p></p><p> I think there is actually more of a style gap between different style players than a generation gap. It can be difficult to game with folks of a different age group for social reasons, I'll grant that. However I think being old or young doesn't align on the view of 4e. To me it seems like other factors on what you want from a game are more important.</p><p></p><p> as has been said many times more eloquently than I, for WoTC this is a business; they are in it to sell product. We have been told they make their most profit during the rush to buy new edition core books. Ergo, there is great pressure on them to deliver a new edition as soon as the market would accept it. </p><p></p><p>I would guess that a very large number of the 4e core rule books sold in the first six months will go to existing D&D gamers, not new RPG gamers. What does that say about who their target really is?</p><p></p><p> I do agree with that. Although I don't agree with your assumptions on how to accomplish it. Put an easier to play, more fun edition in current gamers hands (Grognards or no) and that will generate word of mouth sales, retention of gamers that are frustrated, and possible lower the threashold for newbies to join.</p><p></p><p>As was also pointed out many times, WoTC could use its marketing power to generate additional sales of 3.5e to new RPG gamers. It does not require a new edition to expand your market. I will acknowledge that marketing and sales folks do like the 'new & improved' sticker on a product; it gives them something to talk about.</p><p></p><p>I'm still wait and see on 4e. I promise not to cop a 'gronard-itude' on you if you choose to stick with 3.5e or move on to 4e. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="baradtgnome, post: 3930150, member: 2722"] True enough. Half my gaming group is AARP material. As someone who was once 22, and now <ahem> a little more than forty I don't see it as bad. I trust you will live to be on this side of the discussion some day, and still be able to enjoy the hobby if you choose. I think there is actually more of a style gap between different style players than a generation gap. It can be difficult to game with folks of a different age group for social reasons, I'll grant that. However I think being old or young doesn't align on the view of 4e. To me it seems like other factors on what you want from a game are more important. as has been said many times more eloquently than I, for WoTC this is a business; they are in it to sell product. We have been told they make their most profit during the rush to buy new edition core books. Ergo, there is great pressure on them to deliver a new edition as soon as the market would accept it. I would guess that a very large number of the 4e core rule books sold in the first six months will go to existing D&D gamers, not new RPG gamers. What does that say about who their target really is? I do agree with that. Although I don't agree with your assumptions on how to accomplish it. Put an easier to play, more fun edition in current gamers hands (Grognards or no) and that will generate word of mouth sales, retention of gamers that are frustrated, and possible lower the threashold for newbies to join. As was also pointed out many times, WoTC could use its marketing power to generate additional sales of 3.5e to new RPG gamers. It does not require a new edition to expand your market. I will acknowledge that marketing and sales folks do like the 'new & improved' sticker on a product; it gives them something to talk about. I'm still wait and see on 4e. I promise not to cop a 'gronard-itude' on you if you choose to stick with 3.5e or move on to 4e. :D [/QUOTE]
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