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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Agback" data-source="post: 267737" data-attributes="member: 5328">The term 'grey elves' comes from Tolkien, a 'translation' of his term 'sindar'. The Sindar were that group who set out on the Great Journey (and were therefore not Avari "Refusers"), but who never arrived at Aman in the Time of the Two Trees (and were therefore not Calaquendi ("Elves of the Light")). Most of them were members of that people who called themselves Lindar ("Singers"), but whom the other elves called Teleri "Lastcomers". It is hard to discover in Tolkien what the Teleri looked like, but we gather that they were neither blond like the Vanyar nor black-haired like most Noldor, and that probably few of them had bright blue Vanyarin nor ashen-grey Noldorin eyes. Many of them in Beleriand often wore grey mantles, in imitation of their king Elwë Singollo/Elu Thingol.D&D borrowed the phrase "grey elves" without borrowing much else about the Sindar. Indeed, it seems to have slipped them into the position of the fair Vanyar as the mightiest and snootiest of the mighty snooty elves. (The Sindar were about fourth in the hierarchy, after the Vanyar, Noldor, and the Falmari (those Teleri who made it to Aman in the Time of the Trees.) D&D could have made them grey in colour, but there is no reason to suppose that they did. They are described in the Monster Manual on page 87, with a mention of two schemes of coloration: silver hair with amber eyes, and pale gold hair with violet eyes. Complexion is not discussed, so I presume that it is not appreciably different from that of other elves, ie. "pale-skinned".There might be other information available that is peculiar to your GM's [chosen] setting. Ask your GM for details.Regards,Agback</blockquote>

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