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<blockquote data-quote="Danceofmasks" data-source="post: 4650490" data-attributes="member: 70765"><p>@Elder-Basilisk</p><p> </p><p>On the subject of LFR clerics and paladins, the campaign rules introduce a restriction (that doesn't normally exist) saying you must worship a deity, and only one deity.</p><p>Conveniently, pantheons no longer exist, so the most common reason for venerating multiple deities is gone, but it's still an artificial construct.</p><p> </p><p>At a recent con, I saw 3 clerics.</p><p>1 cleric of tempus but used to be cleric of gruumsh, before they changed the creation guidelines to state that evil deities are not permitted. Ok, it's my cleric, but hey ... I don't have righteous rage, and I'm not intending to take it anytime soon, I just wanted a "kill stuff good" deity 'cos I can't have gruumsh.</p><p>2 cleric of garl glittergold, 'cos giving other people rerolls is crazy strong. Sure, ok .. that's the same reason for taking tempus, but *shrug*</p><p>3 cleric of amaunator. It's +5.5 average damage to a radiant AoE, so it's not bad, but most of the channel divinity feats in the FRPG are better than the PHB ones anyway.</p><p> </p><p>I also saw 2 paladins.</p><p>1 paladin of tempus. Crits stuff good.</p><p>2 paladin of sune. Well, it was poorly built, so any powergamy intentions can be disregarded.</p><p>Apparently, there was a third paladin I didn't see, but knowing the player, it was likely to be poorly built, and female (the player is male).</p><p> </p><p>So at least down under, we're not all powergamers. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danceofmasks, post: 4650490, member: 70765"] @Elder-Basilisk On the subject of LFR clerics and paladins, the campaign rules introduce a restriction (that doesn't normally exist) saying you must worship a deity, and only one deity. Conveniently, pantheons no longer exist, so the most common reason for venerating multiple deities is gone, but it's still an artificial construct. At a recent con, I saw 3 clerics. 1 cleric of tempus but used to be cleric of gruumsh, before they changed the creation guidelines to state that evil deities are not permitted. Ok, it's my cleric, but hey ... I don't have righteous rage, and I'm not intending to take it anytime soon, I just wanted a "kill stuff good" deity 'cos I can't have gruumsh. 2 cleric of garl glittergold, 'cos giving other people rerolls is crazy strong. Sure, ok .. that's the same reason for taking tempus, but *shrug* 3 cleric of amaunator. It's +5.5 average damage to a radiant AoE, so it's not bad, but most of the channel divinity feats in the FRPG are better than the PHB ones anyway. I also saw 2 paladins. 1 paladin of tempus. Crits stuff good. 2 paladin of sune. Well, it was poorly built, so any powergamy intentions can be disregarded. Apparently, there was a third paladin I didn't see, but knowing the player, it was likely to be poorly built, and female (the player is male). So at least down under, we're not all powergamers. :p [/QUOTE]
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