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Are iconics balanced but classes/races not?
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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 3285203" data-attributes="member: 18680"><p>It is my understanding that the playtesting was based on iconic characters. These iconic characters are specific class and race combinations. I am thinking that maybe part of the balance issues are that the combination is balanced but the individual elements are not. </p><p></p><p>The iconics are:</p><p></p><p>Kursk, Half-Orc Barbarian</p><p>Gimble, Gnome Bard</p><p>Jozan, Human Cleric</p><p>Vadania, Half-Elf Druid</p><p>Tordek, Dwarf Fighter</p><p>Ember, Human Monk</p><p>Alhandra, Human Paladin</p><p>Soveliss, Elf Ranger</p><p>Lidda, Halfling Rogue</p><p>Hennet, Human Sorcerer</p><p>Mialee, Elf Wizard</p><p></p><p>Some interesting patterns emerge. The strongest race (Dwarf) is paired with a class often thought to be the weakest (Fighter). On the other hand, the weakest race (Half-Elf) is paired with what is often considered to be the strongest class (Druid). </p><p></p><p>Humans are the race with the broadest range of classes: Cleric, Monk, Paladin and Sorcerer. Notice that the cleric is a cleric of Pelor as that is almost the worst choice from a power-gaming perspective. </p><p></p><p>Half-Orc is often thought to be a weak race but the 4 skill points per level of the Barbarian probably compensate for the -2 INT of the Half Orc when compared to the Fighter. </p><p></p><p>What do people think? Could this explain some of the paradoxes in D&D 3.5 in terms of class and race balance?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Votan, post: 3285203, member: 18680"] It is my understanding that the playtesting was based on iconic characters. These iconic characters are specific class and race combinations. I am thinking that maybe part of the balance issues are that the combination is balanced but the individual elements are not. The iconics are: Kursk, Half-Orc Barbarian Gimble, Gnome Bard Jozan, Human Cleric Vadania, Half-Elf Druid Tordek, Dwarf Fighter Ember, Human Monk Alhandra, Human Paladin Soveliss, Elf Ranger Lidda, Halfling Rogue Hennet, Human Sorcerer Mialee, Elf Wizard Some interesting patterns emerge. The strongest race (Dwarf) is paired with a class often thought to be the weakest (Fighter). On the other hand, the weakest race (Half-Elf) is paired with what is often considered to be the strongest class (Druid). Humans are the race with the broadest range of classes: Cleric, Monk, Paladin and Sorcerer. Notice that the cleric is a cleric of Pelor as that is almost the worst choice from a power-gaming perspective. Half-Orc is often thought to be a weak race but the 4 skill points per level of the Barbarian probably compensate for the -2 INT of the Half Orc when compared to the Fighter. What do people think? Could this explain some of the paradoxes in D&D 3.5 in terms of class and race balance? [/QUOTE]
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