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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6561411" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Essentials (2010) had both a Knight(Fighter) and Cavalier(Paladin) sub-class. The Knight was a tank-fighter: heavy armor, shield, & agro vs adjacent enemies. The Cavalier was a Paladin w/magic mount, IIRC (and I may not RC). </p><p></p><p>So Mike Mearls thought he could justify it. 5e has an 'Eldritch Knight' fighter archetype. I don't believe it's used 'Cavalier' for anything yet, but I could be wrong...</p><p></p><p> Relative to, say, the bog standard fighter in the same edition? The Cavalier. Relative to eachother, it's hard to say, there were some meaningful differences between editions. The 3.5 Knight was, like the Essentials Knight(Fighter), a tank with an attempt at an agro mechanic.</p><p></p><p> Preference for heavy armor. :shrug:</p><p></p><p> 1e Cavalier was closer to a stereotypical 'knight in shining armor' than the 3.5 Knight, I'd say.</p><p></p><p> The 4e 'Guardian' (Sword & board) Fighter build was a bit like the 3.5 knight, and very good at being 'sticky' and actually protecting allies. 4e de-emphasized mounted combat and equipment-over-character-ability, so didn't really have anything quite like the Cavalier. </p><p></p><p> 5e has the Eldritch Knight archetype of the Fighter. It does not have anything called a Cavalier. I don't recall seeing anything that would make either of the other two archetypes - the Champion and Battlemaster - Knight- or Cavalier- like, specifically. 5e isn't showing signs of the kind of rapid roll-out of player options we had with 3.x/Pathfinder/4e/Essentials, so probably nothing right away. 5e, though, does have 'Noble' background, tack that onto a Fighter, and it's pretty knight-like, in concept. There's not much to backgrounds, so a Cavalier background might show up some day, maybe in a free pdf like the one that dropped recently for Princess of the Apocalypse themed AL PCs.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, for some strange reason, every modern version of D&D has gotten really squirrely and nervous over the Lance. As if there was something innately wrong with a long spear used in one hand. I don't know what brought on that neurosis, but Lances have been oddly absent or restricted starting with 3.5 D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6561411, member: 996"] Essentials (2010) had both a Knight(Fighter) and Cavalier(Paladin) sub-class. The Knight was a tank-fighter: heavy armor, shield, & agro vs adjacent enemies. The Cavalier was a Paladin w/magic mount, IIRC (and I may not RC). So Mike Mearls thought he could justify it. 5e has an 'Eldritch Knight' fighter archetype. I don't believe it's used 'Cavalier' for anything yet, but I could be wrong... Relative to, say, the bog standard fighter in the same edition? The Cavalier. Relative to eachother, it's hard to say, there were some meaningful differences between editions. The 3.5 Knight was, like the Essentials Knight(Fighter), a tank with an attempt at an agro mechanic. Preference for heavy armor. :shrug: 1e Cavalier was closer to a stereotypical 'knight in shining armor' than the 3.5 Knight, I'd say. The 4e 'Guardian' (Sword & board) Fighter build was a bit like the 3.5 knight, and very good at being 'sticky' and actually protecting allies. 4e de-emphasized mounted combat and equipment-over-character-ability, so didn't really have anything quite like the Cavalier. 5e has the Eldritch Knight archetype of the Fighter. It does not have anything called a Cavalier. I don't recall seeing anything that would make either of the other two archetypes - the Champion and Battlemaster - Knight- or Cavalier- like, specifically. 5e isn't showing signs of the kind of rapid roll-out of player options we had with 3.x/Pathfinder/4e/Essentials, so probably nothing right away. 5e, though, does have 'Noble' background, tack that onto a Fighter, and it's pretty knight-like, in concept. There's not much to backgrounds, so a Cavalier background might show up some day, maybe in a free pdf like the one that dropped recently for Princess of the Apocalypse themed AL PCs. Also, for some strange reason, every modern version of D&D has gotten really squirrely and nervous over the Lance. As if there was something innately wrong with a long spear used in one hand. I don't know what brought on that neurosis, but Lances have been oddly absent or restricted starting with 3.5 D&D. [/QUOTE]
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