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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 2058780" data-attributes="member: 5890">I think some of the knowledges are useful. I think K:Architecture and engineering, K:local, k:royalty and nobility and k:geography are largely useless, which is a shame. K:local and k:geography are already covered by gather information and survival. K:royalty and nobility is covered by diplomacy and K:architecture is probably covered by some sort of craft skill - regardless, it gives no actual mechanical benefits. Now - this is applies for the usual campaign. However I think even in a specialised campaign, you're still probably only going to see an occasional situation bonus out of any of these. I suppose that a particularly diligent and lenient DM could possibly make them useful, but somehow I doubt it.I think it behooves a party to have the knowledge skills available. I think it's a very good idea to make sure that each knowledge skill (of arcana, religion, nature, planes and dungeoneering) is owned by at least one member of the party.Finally, I think the following changes should probably be made to the various knowledge skills:Knowledge skills should identify appropriate creatures, based on context rather than classification. Why is a mind flayer identified with K:dungeoneering? An ogre mage with K:Nature? A retreiver with K:arcana? A doppleganger with K:nature? K:religion can't identify an angel or a devil?So - when you think of a monster, simply pick the most appropriate skill, and allow skill overlaps. K:nature should still ID an ogre mage, but so should K:arcana. K:urban (see below) should be able to identify ghouls, vampires, dopplegangers etc. K: religion should probably be able to identify some of the outsiders (specifically those allied and opposed with the religion in question).Change the various knowledges so they are location based. Combine K:royalty and nobility, K:architecture and engineering and K:Local into K:Urban. Drop K:Geography - just assume that people know the names of various kingdoms.Add the knowledges to the lists of every class.I think these changes will add a lot of value to the knowledge skills, and encourage their use by all parties.</blockquote>

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