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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1869683" data-attributes="member: 707">There was a thread here a while back, &quot;Fighter vs. PsyWar&quot; in which Scion and Elder-Basilisk fully statted out 20th-level characters to compare their relative strengths and weaknesses.&nbsp; One of the side-effects of E-B's fighter build was that it also demonstrated that people give far too little credit to that fourth attack.&nbsp; If the fighter power attacks for a huge amount, it's a guaranteed miss on anything but a 20, but with little or no PA, it's still got a decent change to hit.&nbsp; And that's still another 1.5xstr + feats + magical bonuses in damage.I'm not going to say you're wrong in your comparison, because frankly I'm not sure you are.&nbsp; It'd take people statting out the ECL 20 weretiger and 20th-level fighter and comparing them (like in the thread I mentioned) to really get a good feel for the strengths and weaknesses of the build, and I'm far too lazy to do such a thing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Still, my gut feeling is that the weretiger is not a &quot;clear winner&quot; in that comparison.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1869683, member: 707"] There was a thread here a while back, "Fighter vs. PsyWar" in which Scion and Elder-Basilisk fully statted out 20th-level characters to compare their relative strengths and weaknesses. One of the side-effects of E-B's fighter build was that it also demonstrated that people give far too little credit to that fourth attack. If the fighter power attacks for a huge amount, it's a guaranteed miss on anything but a 20, but with little or no PA, it's still got a decent change to hit. And that's still another 1.5xstr + feats + magical bonuses in damage. I'm not going to say you're wrong in your comparison, because frankly I'm not sure you are. It'd take people statting out the ECL 20 weretiger and 20th-level fighter and comparing them (like in the thread I mentioned) to really get a good feel for the strengths and weaknesses of the build, and I'm far too lazy to do such a thing. :p Still, my gut feeling is that the weretiger is not a "clear winner" in that comparison. [/QUOTE]

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