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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1870347" data-attributes="member: 707">I believe he's asserting that when the weretiger uses a manufactured weapon, the manufactured weapon then becomes the weretiger's primary attack, and therefore all other attacks not with the manufactured weapon are treated as secondary.  It makes perfect sense to me, since a creature can have multiple secondary weapons but only one primary weapon.So the weretiger would get a +0/-5 with his greatsword, then an additional bite attack at -5, since it's a secondary weapon.I'm still looking for some clarification on TWF penalties.  My gut is to assign TWF penalties for a critter mixing manufactured and natural attacks, though I could be straying into potential House Rules.You've been confused by the terms.  A Half-Celestial isn't half a Celestial creature.  The relationship becomes clearer if we substitute the word "celestial" with "angel."Angel: Solar, Planetar, Astral Deva...Half-Angel: The child of a Solar, Planetar, Astral Deva...and some mortal creature.Angelic Creature:  A beast that lives in Heaven, and thus has a bit of an angelic nature.The same holds true for the fiendish side, and is clear even using the standard terms.Fiend: Balor, Pit Fiend, Succubus, Cornugon...Half-Fiend:  The child of a Pit Fiend, Balor, etc. and a mortal.Fiendish Creature:  A beast that lives in the Abyss/Hells, and thus has a bit of a fiendish nature.Celestial creatures and fiendish creatures are weaker than Half-Celestials and Half-Fiends, because they're only magical beasts that live with the respective Outsiders, not half-Outsider themselves.</blockquote>

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