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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6611230" data-attributes="member: 15700">You seem to be contradicting yourself.&nbsp; One of reasons for your position that monks don't outdo casters is because they cap out at 6th levels and then follow that up by admitting that most of the game never even gets that far.&nbsp; Doesn't seem like a very strong argument if by your own admission it hardly ever comes up.And I didn't say that monks outdo casters now.&nbsp; I was replying to the statements earlier that ki needs to be boosted up because they run out too fast.&nbsp; And if that happens, they can outdo casters.&nbsp; If your monk is slinging around burning hands and walls of fire just as often as a caster and still has better AC, HP, and attacks than a wizard or sorcerer, then it becomes a problem.Ki is limited for a reason.&nbsp; This reminds me of the whole &quot;why isn't there a warlord class&quot; discussion from a few months ago. People wanted a warlord that was pretty much both the abilities of a paladin and battlemaster.&nbsp; Do something like that and you end up with a class that overshadows every other class.&nbsp; So if you boost ki but don't take away all these other areas where a monk is better, you end up with an OP class.I get the impression that some people want a class that dabbles into other class abilities to be as good as those other classes in those abilities.&nbsp; And that way lies imbalance.&nbsp; You can't have a class that does everything as good as everyone else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6611230, member: 15700"] You seem to be contradicting yourself. One of reasons for your position that monks don't outdo casters is because they cap out at 6th levels and then follow that up by admitting that most of the game never even gets that far. Doesn't seem like a very strong argument if by your own admission it hardly ever comes up. And I didn't say that monks outdo casters now. I was replying to the statements earlier that ki needs to be boosted up because they run out too fast. And if that happens, they can outdo casters. If your monk is slinging around burning hands and walls of fire just as often as a caster [i]and still has better AC, HP, and attacks[/i] than a wizard or sorcerer, then it becomes a problem. Ki is limited for a reason. This reminds me of the whole "why isn't there a warlord class" discussion from a few months ago. People wanted a warlord that was pretty much both the abilities of a paladin and battlemaster. Do something like that and you end up with a class that overshadows every other class. So if you boost ki but don't take away all these other areas where a monk is better, you end up with an OP class. I get the impression that some people want a class that dabbles into other class abilities to be as good as those other classes in those abilities. And that way lies imbalance. You can't have a class that does everything as good as everyone else. [/QUOTE]

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