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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8516594" data-attributes="member: 23751">So there's nothing arbitrary about it.&nbsp; The distinction between monster NPCs and other NPCs has been clear since at least 1e.&nbsp; It was clear in 2e.&nbsp; Clear in 3e. I assume clear in 4e and clear in 5e. Treating the clear subcategories as different is the way it has always been.Why would I think that when they are clearly different subcategories of NPCs?&nbsp; When it comes to wage earners you don't treat the subcategory of &quot;below the poverty line&quot; the same as the subcategory &quot;middle class,&quot; so why would I expect two very different NPC subcategories to be treated the same?Not in 1e they didn't. In 1e, 2e and 3e they swung melee weapons and/or shot at people with bows/crossbows. An NPC &quot;archmage&quot; in all three of those editions would be a high level statted PC class wizard.&nbsp; This change in the way non-monster NPCs work happened I think in 4e and remains in 5e.&nbsp; It wasn't present in 1e, 2e or 3e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8516594, member: 23751"] So there's nothing arbitrary about it. The distinction between monster NPCs and other NPCs has been clear since at least 1e. It was clear in 2e. Clear in 3e. I assume clear in 4e and clear in 5e. Treating the clear subcategories as different is the way it has always been. Why would I think that when they are clearly different subcategories of NPCs? When it comes to wage earners you don't treat the subcategory of "below the poverty line" the same as the subcategory "middle class," so why would I expect two very different NPC subcategories to be treated the same? Not in 1e they didn't. In 1e, 2e and 3e they swung melee weapons and/or shot at people with bows/crossbows. An NPC "archmage" in all three of those editions would be a high level statted PC class wizard. This change in the way non-monster NPCs work happened I think in 4e and remains in 5e. It wasn't present in 1e, 2e or 3e. [/QUOTE]

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