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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8517555" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>Not at all, it's just showing that the Death Knight is following the rules of the game, and an indication of the power of the spell for rules purpose, in particular magic resistance (as this was a 1e thing). It certainly does not say that it's following PC rules.</p><p></p><p>As a proof, in 5e, the Death Knight is a 19th level spellcaster, but the class is not even written down so one cannot say that it follows PC rules. Factually, It's the spellcasting ability of a paladin, considering the charisma stat and the spell list, but that is simply for convenience and simplicity purpose, and this is why it causes me absolutely no problem that it's translated into a number of powers to be used, which will allow an easier tracking. And this especially since they have already done the job with the Hellfire Orb, which does not follow at all any PC rule and is just a damaging ability.</p><p></p><p>In a sense, it's only a kind of fireball, but notice how it has inflated the description from a single word to a full paragraph, requiring quite a bit of complexity to describe things again. It was justified for me in the sense that it iconic, but doing that for each of the other powers, while it certainly could be done, would really increase the complexity of both writing and describing the creatures, which would in turn making it more difficult and lengthy to run.</p><p></p><p>It did not prevent me describing the destructive wave and the banishment in colorful terms when running it, and my players liked it. Some of them obviously recognised the spells but wisely kept their mouth shut because what would have been the point, exactly ? Show off their knowledge of the game ? Interrupt and slow it down ? Thankfully, they are more mature than this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it does not, never did, and telling it that way just goes to fuel people who incorrectly believe that it was following PC rules, it's not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And this is where I completely agree with you. 4e and 5e have restored creative freedom to the DM, and we are able to use it without being criticised for imaginary flaws of not being faire to these poor players, it's just the nature of the game, totally supported by the nature of the genre.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8517555, member: 7032025"] Not at all, it's just showing that the Death Knight is following the rules of the game, and an indication of the power of the spell for rules purpose, in particular magic resistance (as this was a 1e thing). It certainly does not say that it's following PC rules. As a proof, in 5e, the Death Knight is a 19th level spellcaster, but the class is not even written down so one cannot say that it follows PC rules. Factually, It's the spellcasting ability of a paladin, considering the charisma stat and the spell list, but that is simply for convenience and simplicity purpose, and this is why it causes me absolutely no problem that it's translated into a number of powers to be used, which will allow an easier tracking. And this especially since they have already done the job with the Hellfire Orb, which does not follow at all any PC rule and is just a damaging ability. In a sense, it's only a kind of fireball, but notice how it has inflated the description from a single word to a full paragraph, requiring quite a bit of complexity to describe things again. It was justified for me in the sense that it iconic, but doing that for each of the other powers, while it certainly could be done, would really increase the complexity of both writing and describing the creatures, which would in turn making it more difficult and lengthy to run. It did not prevent me describing the destructive wave and the banishment in colorful terms when running it, and my players liked it. Some of them obviously recognised the spells but wisely kept their mouth shut because what would have been the point, exactly ? Show off their knowledge of the game ? Interrupt and slow it down ? Thankfully, they are more mature than this. No, it does not, never did, and telling it that way just goes to fuel people who incorrectly believe that it was following PC rules, it's not. And this is where I completely agree with you. 4e and 5e have restored creative freedom to the DM, and we are able to use it without being criticised for imaginary flaws of not being faire to these poor players, it's just the nature of the game, totally supported by the nature of the genre. [/QUOTE]
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