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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8517826" data-attributes="member: 6701124">I'm pretty sure (checks the log for precedent) that if I can swap all of the rules in a 5e game for 3e and still claim it's 5e (!?!?) (double checks to make sure that was read correctly) that allowing customization of character classes is ok.But seriously, I'm not sure I've had a DM since the mid80s not allow some flexibility in what the classes could do if it seemed balanced and fit the world - so I am super with that.&nbsp; I'm also fine with a DM who doesn't want to do that.&nbsp; Would the precedent problem be if I let one player do what seemed reasonable and balanced in terms of power level and world availability, and didn't let someone else?It feels like there are several different arguments going on in this thread.1)&nbsp; Do all NPCs need a PC class?2)&nbsp; Do all NPCs need to have a regular class structure?3)&nbsp; Do all NPCs need to roughly try to model something that could fit into a world where certain skillsets are modeled by the PC classes and others could be modeled by NPC classes I guess if anyone had the time for that?4) Do powers NPCs have need to be gainable by the PCs right now.5) Do powers NPCs have need to be gainable by a new starting PC if they did the appropriate things to get it, including possibly forgoing other powers or playing an NPC class (which might not have existed in written form until it was needed by the player wanting to do these things and convinced you they would do it if you wrote it up)?I don't think conflating these helps anything.&nbsp; I'm voting yes for 3 and 5.How am I saying the Merchant has a PC class?&nbsp; I am not invoking 1.&nbsp; Has anyone in this thread invoked 1?[USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] ,&nbsp; is there something you feel the above list is missing?&nbsp; Which are you arguing for?&nbsp; (And thanks for any feedback!)If being one of the sacred chosen of nameless deity requires training since 6 months old... then a player who wants that power needs to have in their background that they started at 6 months old and everything that comes with that.&nbsp;&nbsp; How does that undermine anything?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8517826, member: 6701124"] I'm pretty sure (checks the log for precedent) that if I can swap all of the rules in a 5e game for 3e and still claim it's 5e (!?!?) (double checks to make sure that was read correctly) that allowing customization of character classes is ok. But seriously, I'm not sure I've had a DM since the mid80s not allow some flexibility in what the classes could do if it seemed balanced and fit the world - so I am super with that. I'm also fine with a DM who doesn't want to do that. Would the precedent problem be if I let one player do what seemed reasonable and balanced in terms of power level and world availability, and didn't let someone else? It feels like there are several different arguments going on in this thread. 1) Do all NPCs need a PC class? 2) Do all NPCs need to have a regular class structure? 3) Do all NPCs need to roughly try to model something that could fit into a world where certain skillsets are modeled by the PC classes and others could be modeled by NPC classes I guess if anyone had the time for that? 4) Do powers NPCs have need to be gainable by the PCs right now. 5) Do powers NPCs have need to be gainable by a new starting PC if they did the appropriate things to get it, including possibly forgoing other powers or playing an NPC class (which might not have existed in written form until it was needed by the player wanting to do these things and convinced you they would do it if you wrote it up)? I don't think conflating these helps anything. I'm voting yes for 3 and 5. How am I saying the Merchant has a PC class? I am not invoking 1. Has anyone in this thread invoked 1? [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] , is there something you feel the above list is missing? Which are you arguing for? (And thanks for any feedback!) If being one of the sacred chosen of nameless deity requires training since 6 months old... then a player who wants that power needs to have in their background that they started at 6 months old and everything that comes with that. How does that undermine anything? [/QUOTE]

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