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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8520162" data-attributes="member: 7032025">In 5e for sure, in the 3. That was the thing about the templates, you could apply them to a human, but you could also have a titan death knight, and the titan part would certainly not be negligible. Templates are sometimes limited as to where you can apply them, for example, vampire: &quot;“Vampire” is an acquired template that can be added to any humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature (referred to hereafter as the base creature).&quot;For example centaure, doppleganger, gargoyle, Hags, etc.See above, a human vampire and a hag vampire are certainly very different.That is your home rules, but if I take rules out of the box, even 1e is very precise: &quot;Note that newly made undead, excluding skeletons, which fall within the days of being dead limit are affected by raise dead spells cast upon them. The effect of the spell is to cause them to become resurrected dead, providing the constitution permits survival; otherwise, they are simply dead.&quot;So if someone has recently been made a zombie (and not too damaged), you don't even have to kill the zombie, you can cast raise dead directly on the zombie and presto you have the creature back to life.Skeletons are out, because obviously the body is not complete enough for raise dead to work, but there is no such limitation as the one you voice above.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8520162, member: 7032025"] In 5e for sure, in the 3. That was the thing about the templates, you could apply them to a human, but you could also have a titan death knight, and the titan part would certainly not be negligible. Templates are sometimes limited as to where you can apply them, for example, vampire: " “Vampire” is an acquired template that can be added to any humanoid or monstrous humanoid creature (referred to hereafter as the base creature)." For example centaure, doppleganger, gargoyle, Hags, etc. See above, a human vampire and a hag vampire are certainly very different. That is your home rules, but if I take rules out of the box, even 1e is very precise: "Note that newly made undead, excluding skeletons, which fall within the days of being dead limit are affected by raise dead spells cast upon them. The effect of the spell is to cause them to become resurrected dead, providing the constitution permits survival; otherwise, they are simply dead." So if someone has recently been made a zombie (and not too damaged), you don't even have to kill the zombie, you can cast raise dead directly on the zombie and presto you have the creature back to life. Skeletons are out, because obviously the body is not complete enough for raise dead to work, but there is no such limitation as the one you voice above. [/QUOTE]

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