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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5379233" data-attributes="member: 8835">I agree with your first paragraph, and Dasuu'ls retort to your second.In the OP's case, he did mention a point on why he didn't buy 4e paper books, but indicated a reason why he still wouldn't use DDI.I don't think it's standards, I think it's building a list of reasons against to support his conclusion that he doesn't want to do 4e.Research exists that this is a common trait in humans.  They make a decision in their irrational part of the brain, and then the rational part builds up evidence to support that reason.  it doesn't mean they may change their mind, simply that the phenomena exists and we may not be away of doing it.Case in point, would Kzach really not use a computer if Apple died, and all Mac's stopped working?  Are Mac's that superior despite their still not good enough for him?  or does he have some irrational bias that makes him a Comput-ist?Consider the PC vs. Mac:they both can write papers and surf the net (with pretty much the exact same software and interface)the interface differences are superficial (somebody has no doubt written  shell to mimic one or the other)Mac's according to legend, are more reliable (fewer virus threats, hardware consistency)PCs are more prevalent (cheaper, so more were bought)That's it in a nutshell, with hopefully minimal bias by myself.  If Kzach barely tolerates a Mac, given how few differences there really are, he's got a hidden set of expectations or requirements).In my world, I don't have a choice.  I use computers every day to do my job.  And my job, for a very long time, has been the promotion of computers to solve problems (I write software, and for 13 years, I worked for a computer company).  That may be my bias.  The first computers I used were Apples, including the very first Mac.  I have one in my closet, it runs OS7.  But Macs are pricey, and PCs are good enough to play games, write papers, surf the net, and write programs to solve business problems (including the cost for servers, and deploying clients to the staff to use those programs).To my eye, Kzach hates computers or has some unspoken expectation of them that may be unrealistic, and thus they will fail to measure up.  I'm OK if he hates computers (and really, what does my feelings on his feelings matter).  Probably, because it's a pure emotional response that can be acknowledged as such.  i hate green beans, eggs and mushrooms.  Since you know I'm not rational about it, it doesn't have to fire your "let me persuade you" circuit.Conversely, if Kzach has some unspoken expectation that the computer may never live up to, we get into a wierd debating mode.  Because my brain is trying to fathon what his logical argument is, because he's presenting himself as if he has one.I'm using Kzach and his mention of Computers as an example, not as a debating point on how he actually feels (or doesn't feel).My point is, when somebody says I don't like X for A, B, and C reasons, that doesn't mean there isn't an emotional driver for not liking X, and A, B and C are just excuses to rationalize the decision.And for the record, I don't like Grean Beans, Eggs or Mushrooms because they taste bad.  And Eggs smell bad.  And Mushrooms just creep me out.</blockquote>

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