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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 757716" data-attributes="member: 4134">Welcome to the boards, Tomiro!On the question at hand: intimidating is creating that lump in the throat of the enemy: an incertainty, a fear, really, that you're powerless against him, that he's better, or more powerful than you, and there's no way you can stop him. It's not exactly threatening, although often part of threatening (sorry I used an ambiguous explanation last week). Being immune to fear means that you're immune to intimidate. You can, of course, be threatened. You can find yourself on the horns, even, in a clear lose-lose-situation, but you will be able to consider it cool-headed, without any tricks played on your mind.Ever read Lords & Ladies (Pratchett's Discworld)? The elves did exactly that: they intimidated everyone. They were stronger than humans, because humans let themselves be made weaker. They thought that they had no chance against the elves, deserved none, because they were nothing, while the elves were shining. Once the spell was broken, they weren't hauntingly beautiful anymore, they were skinni, foxy-faced humands with to small mouths and noses, and to big eyes. And they were weak.Some Paladins will even attack even if they know that they can't save the children, cause it serves the greater good, and that's all that matters to them. They would sacrifice those children. Not every paladin works with rogues, only PC Paladins to that in any frequency. And even then some of them would object to use any underhanded tacticsI don't like that rule overmuch. Of course the DM cannot use anything short of dominate person to control the actions of characters! But he should be able to use Intimidate and the likes to flavor the info the players get: a successful Intimidate check, and the DM will describe the char much more imposant.</blockquote>

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