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<blockquote data-quote="GameOgre" data-source="post: 7329501" data-attributes="member: 57914">Sorry.You are right. I was using the wrong definition of Powergaming. By definition it is negative.Powergaming (or power gaming) is a style of interacting with games or game-like systems, particularly video games, boardgames, and role-playing games, with the aim of maximising progress towards a specific goal, to the exclusion of other considerations such as storytelling, atmosphere and camaraderie.So what I was defining it as was not it's actual definition.I guess I was using optimized in it's place.I think that might also be part of the issue with others as well but I can't be sure.So I retract my defense of this negative behavior and plead for mercy on grounds that my actual stats were rolled 3d6 in order and I got a lot of 1's.next time I will try to google a friggin definition BEFORE fighting about it for 16 pages.Edited to add two of my players just told me also that they considered themselves Powergamers but when I read three different definitions of it to them they said well ok no, that was not the definition they were comfortable using. they would probably be optimizer but I can't be sure as that definition isn't really clear. I think rpg definitions are all over the place and part of the issue is that we all use different ones.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GameOgre, post: 7329501, member: 57914"] Sorry. You are right. I was using the wrong definition of Powergaming. By definition it is negative. Powergaming (or power gaming) is a style of interacting with games or game-like systems, particularly video games, boardgames, and role-playing games, with the aim of maximising progress towards a specific goal, to the exclusion of other considerations such as storytelling, atmosphere and camaraderie. So what I was defining it as was not it's actual definition. I guess I was using optimized in it's place. I think that might also be part of the issue with others as well but I can't be sure. So I retract my defense of this negative behavior and plead for mercy on grounds that my actual stats were rolled 3d6 in order and I got a lot of 1's. next time I will try to google a friggin definition BEFORE fighting about it for 16 pages. Edited to add two of my players just told me also that they considered themselves Powergamers but when I read three different definitions of it to them they said well ok no, that was not the definition they were comfortable using. they would probably be optimizer but I can't be sure as that definition isn't really clear. I think rpg definitions are all over the place and part of the issue is that we all use different ones. [/QUOTE]

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