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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chun-tzu" data-source="post: 858135" data-attributes="member: 1441">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: too powerfulThe point of what? Are you arguing that prestige classes are unnecessary? Well, sure. They've been optional from the beginning. But by that very same argument, most classes are unnecessary. Who needs a Ranger, when there are Fighter/Rogues and Fighter/Druids? Why have Barbarians when we already have Fighters and Rangers?That doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. Maybe you like a minimalist game, but I find a lot of classes and prestige classes to be interesting and potentially inspiring. Any _good_ class or prestige class is good for the game.Of course you don't NEED to change classes. (And I'm not sure what you're even doing in this example; what kind of Fighter 4 is doing spell research?)Prestige classes are an optional mechanic, but a good one. It allows modification of classes, in the service of flavor. It allows the creation of virtually any type of fantasy character, without changing the core rules. The core philosophy of 3e is options, not restrictions. More options is a good thing.Sure, there are a lot of poorly designed prestige classes out there. But that doesn't mean that the idea of prestige classes is flawed.</blockquote>