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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 859970" data-attributes="member: 8158">Good points all, Technik. Would've said it myself had I gotten here earlier...snipped the part about the oozemaster though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />While a lot of people were complaining that the Ranger was broken and didn't fit their personal concept of what a ranger should be (rushing off to cobble together a million different variants) it seemed to occur to only a handful of people to use PrC's to flesh out any particular specialized role. Masters of the Wild did a nice job of this for the most part. You want a tracker that's an implacable manhunter? Bloodhound. Yearn for an archer that's can thread a needle at 100 paces? Deepwood Sniper. Think it'd be cool to play an expert monster killer? Foe Hunter. How about a Tarzan or Beastmaster-type? King of the Jungle and Beast Lord (respectively). OK, the Tempest is a gimp, but other than MotW did a great job for the ranger.Now, wizard-oriented PrC's put off a lot of people, because often it seems that the class simply enhances the power of the wizard without costing him anything, It's a complaint that goes all the way back to the loremaster in the DMG. And it's usually accurate. But it might to help to stop and notice that, unlike most other classes, the wizard doesn't have anything to trade off. He can't settle for a lower hit die, a lower BAB, fewer skill points, or worse saving throws. He's already sucking it up in all of those areas. If he opts to simply "miss out" on abilities that he'd gain by staying in the core class, it's quite a shaft because all he gets is spellcasting and a free feat every 5 levels. Personally, I'm inclined to say that the problem isn't the PrC's, but rather that wizzies (and sors) are light on class features. Note that clerics CAN trade off in most of the aforementioned areas, so as a result they get spiffier PrC's that fewer people complain about....and by taking the Magic domain, they can even co-opt a large portion of the wizard's role. Ever seen the look on a wizard's face when the priest of Boccob wins the roll off for a wand of fireballs? Priceless. In short, DM's please support your local wizard: be magnanimous with their PrC's. It's their great equalizer.</blockquote>

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