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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6133895" data-attributes="member: 1465">Just a quick comparison between Fighter and Wizard at a few key levels:--------------------FIGHTER 5HP 34AB +2all armors, shield, simple w., martial w.M.feats 2Deadly Strike, w.dmg x2Expertise 3d6 (Death Dealer, Superior Defense, Unerring Attacker)Multiattack 2WIZARD 5HP 22SB +2daggers, darts, slings, quarterstaffs, light crossbowsArcane Recovery (3rd lv)Wiz.KnowledgeCantripsSpells known 4 2 1Spells prep. 6Spells/day 4 3 2RitualsExample spells available: Charm Person (lv1), Invisibility (lv2), Fly (lv3), Water Breathing (lv3), Fireball (lv3)--------------------FIGHTER 10HP 64AB +3all armors, shield, simple w., martial w.M.feats 3Deadly Strike, w.dmg x3Expertise 4d6 (Death Dealer, Superior Defense, Unerring Attacker, Unstoppable)Multiattack 3WIZARD 10HP 42SB +3daggers, darts, slings, quarterstaffs, light crossbowsArcane Recovery (3rd lv)Wiz.KnowledgeCantripsSpells known 4 2 2 2 2Spells prep. 11Spells/day 4 3 3 3 2RitualsExample spells available: Invisibility (lv2), Polymorph (lv4), Cloudkill (lv5), Dominate Person (lv5), Teleportation Circle (lv5)--------------------FIGHTER 15HP 94AB +4all armors, shield, simple w., martial w.M.feats 3Deadly Strike, w.dmg x4Expertise 5d6 (Death Dealer, Superior Defense, Unerring Attacker, Unstoppable)Multiattack 4Combat Surge 2/dayWIZARD 15HP 62SB +4daggers, darts, slings, quarterstaffs, light crossbowsArcane Recovery (3rd lv)Wiz.KnowledgeCantripsSpells known 4 2 2 2 2 2 2 1Spells prep. 16Spells/day 4 3 3 3 2 1 1 1RitualsExample spells available: Polymorph (lv4), Dominate Person (lv5), Mass Invisibility (lv7), Prismatic Spray (lv7), Teleport (lv7)--------------------FIGHTER 20HP 124AB +5all armors, shield, simple w., martial w.M.feats 3Deadly Strike, w.dmg x5Expertise 6d6 (Death Dealer, Superior Defense, Unerring Attacker, Unstoppable)Multiattack 5Combat Surge 4/dayWIZARD 20HP 82SB +5daggers, darts, slings, quarterstaffs, light crossbowsArcane Recovery (3rd lv)Wiz.KnowledgeCantripsSpells known 4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 4Spells prep. 21Spells/day 4 3 3 3 2 1 1 1 1RitualsExample spells available: Polymorph (lv4), Dominate Person (lv5), Mass Invisibility (lv7), Teleport (lv7), Meteor Swarm (lv9), Time Stop (lv9), Wish (lv9)--------------------Note that Wizard's stats do not include benefits from Tradition, so e.g. Scholarly Wizard have more spells known.Do you think that with the current implementation of Deadly Strike (at will), Expertise Dice (encounter-based), Multiattack (round-based) and Combat Surge (daily) the Fighter keeps up well with the Wizard who got less daily spells and less spells knows than 3e (but also got more flexible preparation, and free rituals out of combat)?Or is the quadratic Wizard still a problem?(EDIT: example spells added)</blockquote>

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