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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4442125" data-attributes="member: 65637">Somewhat disagree.  Casters have the highest potential to usurp other class roles if they purposefully choose to do so, but rogues can usurp them too with wands and scrolls.  What's good for one class is good for the other.  And of course, magic items can replace ANY role, and...why, what's this, rogues get Use Magic Device? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />I think a lot of the "ROGUES ARE USELESS!" comes from those tumor-ridden "intellectual puzzles" that the CharOps board liked to do, where the wizard is apparently the biggest jerk in the world and goes way out of his way to purposefully try and replace other party members.  The emphasis on my first sentence is "IF THEY PURPOSEFULLY CHOOSE TO DO SO."  No wizard levels up and goes "AWESOME, I CAN CAST KNOCK!"</blockquote>