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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Folly" data-source="post: 4431151" data-attributes="member: 62919">The issue I have with the short duration vs long duration stems from the "And basically every time you have a good enough reason to cast scry, somene has a much better reason to stop you." statement. This is true because the DM decides the target would takes such measures. Further scrying has always been at the whim of the DM as to how effective it is, consequently how effective the spell is has hardly changed. What has change is how believable the spell is, and how that impacts suspicion of disbelief. The issue with the spell is not what it provides or doesn't. Its not that the information is not available via different means. The problem comes from the player looking at the spell and thinking about how much information is truely available with a 30 second view time and how that affects their reaction to the information gained from the spell. Scrying having such a short duration causes cognitive dissonance within the player.And before someone says that you get a persons identity with a 30s view. Ask yourself if you would recognize the person who stole your car stereo? So the information you actually get is what they look like for the 30s of the view. If they happen to be disguised or in some other manor obstructed from the sensor that information is even in question.</blockquote>