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Message: <blockquote data-quote="theNater" data-source="post: 4431258" data-attributes="member: 62560">I suspect the cognitive dissonance is the result of the fact that the duration has changed.  Does 30 seconds feel wrong because it's inappropriate for scrying, or because earlier editions had longer scrys?Think about fantasy movies and stories wherein the hero goes to a sage for a vision.  The sage engages in some ritual motions, possibly chanting and applying powders, then an image of the target appears.  It hangs in the air/mirror/water for a few seconds, then fades away.  This is how 4th edition scrying works, and it's not inherently any more bizarre than 3rd edition scrying.It depends.  While they're stealing my stereo, are they sitting upright in the car, looking down at the stereo, while I watch through the windshield?  Or do they have their head down next to the stereo, while I'm running towards the car and yelling at them to stop?  In the first case, I'll certainly be able to identify them.  In the second case, I've got a moderately good chance to pick them out of a lineup, but probably wouldn't recognize them on a crowded street.Scrying is generally going to be more like the first scenario, because the sensor can be anywhere near them, and the observer is likely to be relaxed and able to focus.If they are usually disguised in that manner, than you can still identify them just fine.  You won't know what they look like out of disguise, but that's only a problem if they only wear the disguise while being the target of a scry.  As the sensor is "a shimmer in the air", I am under the impression that it takes up no space, so it can be right in front of the target's face if necessary.  A DM actively making the spell unhelpful is not a failing of the spell.</blockquote>

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