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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 2237130" data-attributes="member: 16019">My post is mostly in response to your title, not your post- but that's only because I don't quite know enough about min/maxing to help you out with that.Anyway, I happen to be of the opinion that Shifters are powerful. Very powerful. All of the Eberron races are, in fact, but this isn't about free 25% fortification or immunity to poisons or immunity to disease as well as a free natural attack or any of those other things the Warforged gets that a human could only achieve through ridiculous amounts of money and/or specific levels of classes, this is about the Shifter.The Shifter's Shift ability, as I said, is powerful. The get one of many different abilities that not only give you a boost to an ability score, but they afford you some other bonus as well (in your case, claws). Two free natural attacks are a VERY big benefit, especially considering (if I'm not mistaken) they can be used in addition to attacks with manufactured weapons- as well as the bonus to Strength that comes with them. Races of Eberron made things even worse, such as allowing Shifters to begin with Flight or the ability to deal Con damage with every attack (courtesy of one of the new Shifter Traits, and the re-done Longtooth Elite or whatever the feat's called). These don't apply to you, but I don't think ANY character should be able to fly at first level, or get a Wounding attack for free (even if it's only for a few rounds a day).Why am I even posting this? I haven't added anything to the discussion- all I've done is rant about Shifters. Heck, not even Shifters- the only thing I'm ranting about is Races of Eberron. And not just Races of Eberron, either- all of the newer books are getting this extremely-apparent power creep. Geez, first, Races of the Wild, and now this? Why do people still buy this garbage?</blockquote>

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