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Are shifters too powerful?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson_Manticore" data-source="post: 2237289" data-attributes="member: 4750"><p>If shifting isn’t all that powerful, then why are you so concerned about being able to shift in every single encounter? The fact that you feel your character is useless when not shifted indicates that you personally believe that shifting is indeed quite powerful.</p><p></p><p>I myself do not think that shifting as it currently stands (can only be used a small number of times per day) is overpowered. Being able to only shift 1 or 2 times per day keeps the character interesting IMO. That way you have to make a decision at the beginning of each encounter whether or not to shift. If you could shift 6 times a day, then you never have to decide – you just always shift every encounter. Making decisions keeps things interesting.</p><p></p><p>Also, since shifting is a free action, if you can shift often enough to shift in every single encounter, that is almost the same as being permanently shifted. So imagine the shifter race with no shifting but instead with all their shifter benefits active at all times. Is such a race more powerful than the other LA+0 races? If you say yes, then being able to shift in every encounter without significant cost is overpowered.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I would allow a feat that let you add one extra shift per day. If I were playing a shifter, I would probably never take such a feat, since you can get more benefits by taking the shifter feats instead, but YMMV. I would also have no problem allowing the use of an action point to gain an extra shift, so long as action points are fairly rare and non replenishable. Otherwise, just pick your shifting opportunities carefully. Your shifter should still be reasonably effective even when not shifted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson_Manticore, post: 2237289, member: 4750"] If shifting isn’t all that powerful, then why are you so concerned about being able to shift in every single encounter? The fact that you feel your character is useless when not shifted indicates that you personally believe that shifting is indeed quite powerful. I myself do not think that shifting as it currently stands (can only be used a small number of times per day) is overpowered. Being able to only shift 1 or 2 times per day keeps the character interesting IMO. That way you have to make a decision at the beginning of each encounter whether or not to shift. If you could shift 6 times a day, then you never have to decide – you just always shift every encounter. Making decisions keeps things interesting. Also, since shifting is a free action, if you can shift often enough to shift in every single encounter, that is almost the same as being permanently shifted. So imagine the shifter race with no shifting but instead with all their shifter benefits active at all times. Is such a race more powerful than the other LA+0 races? If you say yes, then being able to shift in every encounter without significant cost is overpowered. Personally, I would allow a feat that let you add one extra shift per day. If I were playing a shifter, I would probably never take such a feat, since you can get more benefits by taking the shifter feats instead, but YMMV. I would also have no problem allowing the use of an action point to gain an extra shift, so long as action points are fairly rare and non replenishable. Otherwise, just pick your shifting opportunities carefully. Your shifter should still be reasonably effective even when not shifted. [/QUOTE]
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