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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6793814" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p>Well, upon thinking about stories, myths, etc, [MENTION=5834]Celtavian[/MENTION] and [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] are correct. There are 'lots' of stories about single 'boss monster' fights in the end, as they mentioned. I guess what I was thinking about was D&D and AD&D 1e/2e adventure modules. Of the official published modules, I can't really come up with any where the PC's faced off against a single boss-monster type. Hmmm.... </p><p></p><p>**SPOILERS BELOW**</p><p></p><p></p><p>**</p><p></p><p></p><p>**</p><p></p><p></p><p>**</p><p></p><p></p><p>**</p><p></p><p></p><p>The module B4, The Lost City ...the original one had a very bottom level where the PC's could face off against "Zargon" (iirc), who was a unique monster. A case might be made for Oonga from the <em>Isle of the Ape</em> module...but I can't remember if there are any of those other "little oonga-apes" around him. Oh, maybe the red dragon in the dungeon/cave in another Basic D&D module, <em>Horror on the Hill</em>. Hmmm....<em>Lost Caverns of Tsojacanth</em> has potential for a face off against the vampire chick...Derlena? Drelna? Something like that.</p><p></p><p>But that's all I can think of at the moment. Maybe there's more. I'm not including ones where the 'boss monster' is very likely to summon or otherwise 'have minions available'. I guess I'll have to concede there there are more adventures with "boss monsters" in them than I had originally though.</p><p></p><p>Er...however... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ...I'd also like to point out that most of the boss-monsters I listed and can think of are all unique individuals or creatures. So there is still no real "solo" monster category in 5e, from what I can see. There are monsters that can fit that bill and hold there own, as I said, but I'd wager that to make them a "true, boss-monster", the DM is going to modify them to suit the story. So doing up an analysis of X PC's vs. Y Solo Monsters isn't going to work just from that standpoint.</p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 6793814, member: 45197"] Hiya! Well, upon thinking about stories, myths, etc, [MENTION=5834]Celtavian[/MENTION] and [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] are correct. There are 'lots' of stories about single 'boss monster' fights in the end, as they mentioned. I guess what I was thinking about was D&D and AD&D 1e/2e adventure modules. Of the official published modules, I can't really come up with any where the PC's faced off against a single boss-monster type. Hmmm.... **SPOILERS BELOW** ** ** ** ** The module B4, The Lost City ...the original one had a very bottom level where the PC's could face off against "Zargon" (iirc), who was a unique monster. A case might be made for Oonga from the [I]Isle of the Ape[/I] module...but I can't remember if there are any of those other "little oonga-apes" around him. Oh, maybe the red dragon in the dungeon/cave in another Basic D&D module, [I]Horror on the Hill[/I]. Hmmm....[I]Lost Caverns of Tsojacanth[/I] has potential for a face off against the vampire chick...Derlena? Drelna? Something like that. But that's all I can think of at the moment. Maybe there's more. I'm not including ones where the 'boss monster' is very likely to summon or otherwise 'have minions available'. I guess I'll have to concede there there are more adventures with "boss monsters" in them than I had originally though. Er...however... ;) ...I'd also like to point out that most of the boss-monsters I listed and can think of are all unique individuals or creatures. So there is still no real "solo" monster category in 5e, from what I can see. There are monsters that can fit that bill and hold there own, as I said, but I'd wager that to make them a "true, boss-monster", the DM is going to modify them to suit the story. So doing up an analysis of X PC's vs. Y Solo Monsters isn't going to work just from that standpoint. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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