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Are some Fighting Styles worthless, and how could they be fixed?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9241491" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>There is no logical reason to do that if all the other non-casters are worse. Giving Barbarians, Monks and Rogues fighting styles could improve this, but it would be very unpopular I think.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, Rangers and Paladins are the median classes in 5E. Those are the "average" classes and if we are looking at fighters and other martials, changes that reduce the gap between fighters and these classes improve balance overall. In this respecr, making changes to nerf Dueling and Archery would be a bigger debuf to Paladins (who tend to favor dueling) and Rangers (who tend to favor Archery) than it would be to fighters, bringing these two classes closer to the other 4 martials. </p><p></p><p>Most Fighters tend to take GWF, Defense or Superior Technique, so the debuffs to Dueling and Archery fighting styles would actually help fighters overall, by being a bigger nerf to the two martial classes more powerful than fighters. You do have a fair number of Archer crossbow fighters, and this does hurt them, but not many fighters take dueling IME.</p><p></p><p>So this would improve overall balance by moving the average classes (Ranger and Paladin) closer to the fighter (and other non-casters).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9241491, member: 7030563"] There is no logical reason to do that if all the other non-casters are worse. Giving Barbarians, Monks and Rogues fighting styles could improve this, but it would be very unpopular I think. Additionally, Rangers and Paladins are the median classes in 5E. Those are the "average" classes and if we are looking at fighters and other martials, changes that reduce the gap between fighters and these classes improve balance overall. In this respecr, making changes to nerf Dueling and Archery would be a bigger debuf to Paladins (who tend to favor dueling) and Rangers (who tend to favor Archery) than it would be to fighters, bringing these two classes closer to the other 4 martials. Most Fighters tend to take GWF, Defense or Superior Technique, so the debuffs to Dueling and Archery fighting styles would actually help fighters overall, by being a bigger nerf to the two martial classes more powerful than fighters. You do have a fair number of Archer crossbow fighters, and this does hurt them, but not many fighters take dueling IME. So this would improve overall balance by moving the average classes (Ranger and Paladin) closer to the fighter (and other non-casters). [/QUOTE]
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