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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4936090" data-attributes="member: 957">I tried to get you into this conversation before and presented a different position.You said And the back and forth supported my understanding that you meant exactly this.  You were not challenging whether or not the difference in difficulty was too high, you were challenging that there should be no difference at all.  You did not get into the detail of the implementation.  You seemed to rather clearly reject the concept.If you now want to revise your statement then cool.  If you agree that harder things should be harder, then we agree.You may want a smaller gap in DCs and I may want a larger one. Or we may agree completely.  That does not matter either way because we are free to tweak the DCs in our own games however we see fit.But in regard to the core concept of whether or not there should be a difference, I still completely disagree with the statements you made upthread.If you want to change that now and say that there CAN be a difference without "quickly achieving a situation where no one attempts" options, then that debate is done.If you want to present an actual assessment of the DC differences in PF, go for it.  Hell, I might agree with you in regard to the specific magnitudes.  Right now I think I'm happy with the numbers as they are.</blockquote>