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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 467539" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>But how is that a balance issue? Since spells are the primary way a mage (and to a lesser degree, a cleric) contributes to combat, they have to keep in lock-step with the fighters of the world. If certain spells didn't scale, then they'd be fairly useless and totally forgotten. Do you perceive an imbalance with the spell? In what way? A 3rd level sorceror gets to cast only a handful of MMs per day, more if he sacrifices some higher-level slots. The fighter can dish out more damage than that with a bow in a matter of seconds, with the help of a few handy feats.</p><p></p><p>Why is it bad that certain spells are more popular than others? I've already heard of several spells that are popular with some groups that are virtually ignored by others. Slow, for example; some groups use it to vast tacitcal advantage, while others don't. Why isn't it as popular as haste or Fly? Simple. Haste lets the spellcaster enhance his own personal contribution to the combat...slow merely deprives his enemy. Some folks just aren't going to find that an appealing choice, as sound a tactic as it is. That isn't a failure of the spell, just a matter of game involvement.</p><p></p><p>Further, the utility of some spells depends on the game and the challenges presented therein. A game heavier on combat than normal D&D is going to generate spellcaster heavy on combat-related spells. A game where role-playing and creative thinking are rewarded might make a spell like Faerie Fire or Prestidigitation much more useful than otherwise. Glitterdust is a very popular spell with my group, for example, but I don't often hear it's praises sung elsewhere. That isn't a poor reflection on the spell, merely a choice of specific players.</p><p></p><p>I would also argue that Melf's Acid Arrow is different from MM, not necessarily better. Especially if a Brooch of Shielding is about. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 467539, member: 151"] But how is that a balance issue? Since spells are the primary way a mage (and to a lesser degree, a cleric) contributes to combat, they have to keep in lock-step with the fighters of the world. If certain spells didn't scale, then they'd be fairly useless and totally forgotten. Do you perceive an imbalance with the spell? In what way? A 3rd level sorceror gets to cast only a handful of MMs per day, more if he sacrifices some higher-level slots. The fighter can dish out more damage than that with a bow in a matter of seconds, with the help of a few handy feats. Why is it bad that certain spells are more popular than others? I've already heard of several spells that are popular with some groups that are virtually ignored by others. Slow, for example; some groups use it to vast tacitcal advantage, while others don't. Why isn't it as popular as haste or Fly? Simple. Haste lets the spellcaster enhance his own personal contribution to the combat...slow merely deprives his enemy. Some folks just aren't going to find that an appealing choice, as sound a tactic as it is. That isn't a failure of the spell, just a matter of game involvement. Further, the utility of some spells depends on the game and the challenges presented therein. A game heavier on combat than normal D&D is going to generate spellcaster heavy on combat-related spells. A game where role-playing and creative thinking are rewarded might make a spell like Faerie Fire or Prestidigitation much more useful than otherwise. Glitterdust is a very popular spell with my group, for example, but I don't often hear it's praises sung elsewhere. That isn't a poor reflection on the spell, merely a choice of specific players. I would also argue that Melf's Acid Arrow is different from MM, not necessarily better. Especially if a Brooch of Shielding is about. :) [/QUOTE]
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