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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9184721" data-attributes="member: 18">What's inevitable is some people have much lower and higher thresholds for noticing what's wrong. At the extremes, some people are the princess and the pea, and other people are impaled and dying bloodily on punji sticks and going "What? Feels fine to me! I guess I'm just made of tougher stuff!". And sometimes people will easily notice technical glitches or continuity issues, but be completely deaf to utterly terrible and laughable dialogue, wooden performances, and so on, whereas others will be very aware of issues with performances or writing, but either don't notice or don't care about terrible VFX or costumes or the like. I mean, I've seen people defend truly indefensible costumes that looked like a very bad day at Comic Con as if they were The Starry Night.On top of all this is a nerd speciality, which is to say programs which are really bad are "fine, actually!" or even good, purely because of the subject matter. I'm not saying I'm completely immune to this, I'm not sure anyone with nerdy interests is truly immune to this. There are absolutely people who will watch terrible Marvel shows and say they're okay, just because they're a Marvel show, and they want a Marvel show. I don't and couldn't know what proportion of people this is, but it's enough to muddy the waters on the quality of any Marvel or Star Wars show (weirdly less so with Trek for whatever reason).(To be clear this latter group does have an antithesis - there are equally people who will always take a dump on SF and fantasy, regardless of how good it is. Some of them even work at the NYT! So it's not a one-way street.)Of the properties I listed, the problems were variable in impact, but all evidence of rushing products and pushing budgets. Like, with Wakanda Forever, if you watched it in certain cinemas, the overdark scenes weren't really an issue, and Disney actually corrected it by the time it reached D+ if I remember correctly - and those scenes are a small minority of the movie. Its real problems stemmed from trying to be two different movies and only succeeding at one of them, but that's a different discussion and not related to rushing I think. Ms Marvel succeeded in being a pretty show despite some really cut-off plots and some tonal whiplash (from the good guys stabbing multiple baddies to death to other good guys fighting the police with implausible/zero verisimilitude Home Alone-style shenanigans in what, two episodes? Jesus). Falcon and the Winter Soldier though was a huge mess writing, plot and tone-wise, and tried way too hard to set up Secret Invasion, which I'm not even going to start on. If you didn't notice anything off with either, well, I guess you're "made of tougher stuff".</blockquote>

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