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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9189270" data-attributes="member: 18">I think there's a huge difference between trusting the audience or not, and feeling embarrassed by superheroes or not - both of which were huge issues in the 1990s and '00s, and making a smart start that gives the characters a better context and makes them work better than they would otherwise. I think you're actually re-enacting your own '00s trauma here, and mistaking doing the smart thing and really making the characters vibe with the way certain producers/directors did everything they could to not make superheroes superheroes.With Doom I think the big issue is that if you update it so he's a recently emerged guy from a Central European country on Earth, which you'd kind of have to for the MCU, then his wild 1960s style just seems off, and Marvel will be tempted to change/update it (indeed, I 100% guarantee they will), not out of embarrassment but out of neophilia.Likewise with the FF, I think if they did them all as modern people, they'd change them much more significantly, personality-wise and background-wise, than if they did them as 1960s people. Your point re: going into space is pretty irrelevant - as I was saying, the actual backstory of how they got their powers is both boring and irrelevant and should be covered as briefly as possible. Versions of the FF that have leaned into making it important have generally not been great (except I think some complicated comics iteration a while back, but that wouldn't fit with a movie).</blockquote>

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