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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9190807" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>Maybe? Probably not? After all, part of the appeal of <em>The Boys</em> is that it can do things that you can't get away with in a wide-release movie- certainly not a PG-13 movie, and not even R-rated movies for some of the scenes. </p><p></p><p>In addition, having a successful streaming show doesn't mean that you're going to pull in a lot of average moviegoers. It's not like people in the past used to say, "Hey, NCIS pulls in great numbers. It needs a movie!"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Sigh</em> Look, this isn't an acting problem. Brie Larson (Captain Marvel) is an amazing actor. Tom Hiddleston (Loki) is an amazing actor. Natalie Portman (Love and Thunder) is an amazing actor. Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke (Moon Knight) are amazing actors. Tatiana Maslany is an amazing actor. Angelina Jolie, Richard Madden, and Salma Hayek (Eternals)? Amazing actors. Michelle Pfieffer (Ant-Man- Quantumania)? Amazing Actor.</p><p></p><p>I could keep going, but you get the idea. The problem is not the <em>acting</em>. Marvel continues to pull in great actors. Heck, love him or hate him, the problem with Secret Invasion wasn't the fact that it had Samuel L. Jackson, Ben Mendelsohn (!!!), and Emilia Clarke. No one would look at the top cast and say ... you gotta get better ACTORS. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, the issue with this type of argument is just that- you can't just cherry-pick numbers to support your argument when it suits you, and discount numbers when it doesn't. In addition, "numbers" aren't really a measure of artistic merit; <em>Succession </em>was a great show, but despite the greatness of it, it was a niche show- the fourth season was by far the most watched, and it still did half the viewership of a show like <em>White Lotus</em>, and a <em>quarter</em> of <em>House of the Dragon </em>or <em>The Last of Us</em>. (For what it's worth, the third season finale of <em>Succession </em>did less than 2 million viewers, whereas <em>White Lotus</em> averages over 15 million viewers, and the biggest shows on Max average over 30 million). </p><p></p><p>Yes, numbers matter, but you have to actually look at the numbers. Otherwise, by your argument, every actor on <em>The Last of Us</em> is a better actor than Brian Cox and Jeremy Strong and Sarah Snook. Is that your point?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9190807, member: 7023840"] Maybe? Probably not? After all, part of the appeal of [I]The Boys[/I] is that it can do things that you can't get away with in a wide-release movie- certainly not a PG-13 movie, and not even R-rated movies for some of the scenes. In addition, having a successful streaming show doesn't mean that you're going to pull in a lot of average moviegoers. It's not like people in the past used to say, "Hey, NCIS pulls in great numbers. It needs a movie!" [I]Sigh[/I] Look, this isn't an acting problem. Brie Larson (Captain Marvel) is an amazing actor. Tom Hiddleston (Loki) is an amazing actor. Natalie Portman (Love and Thunder) is an amazing actor. Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke (Moon Knight) are amazing actors. Tatiana Maslany is an amazing actor. Angelina Jolie, Richard Madden, and Salma Hayek (Eternals)? Amazing actors. Michelle Pfieffer (Ant-Man- Quantumania)? Amazing Actor. I could keep going, but you get the idea. The problem is not the [I]acting[/I]. Marvel continues to pull in great actors. Heck, love him or hate him, the problem with Secret Invasion wasn't the fact that it had Samuel L. Jackson, Ben Mendelsohn (!!!), and Emilia Clarke. No one would look at the top cast and say ... you gotta get better ACTORS. Again, the issue with this type of argument is just that- you can't just cherry-pick numbers to support your argument when it suits you, and discount numbers when it doesn't. In addition, "numbers" aren't really a measure of artistic merit; [I]Succession [/I]was a great show, but despite the greatness of it, it was a niche show- the fourth season was by far the most watched, and it still did half the viewership of a show like [I]White Lotus[/I], and a [I]quarter[/I] of [I]House of the Dragon [/I]or [I]The Last of Us[/I]. (For what it's worth, the third season finale of [I]Succession [/I]did less than 2 million viewers, whereas [I]White Lotus[/I] averages over 15 million viewers, and the biggest shows on Max average over 30 million). Yes, numbers matter, but you have to actually look at the numbers. Otherwise, by your argument, every actor on [I]The Last of Us[/I] is a better actor than Brian Cox and Jeremy Strong and Sarah Snook. Is that your point? [/QUOTE]
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