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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5566503" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>If you have martial proficiencies:</p><p> </p><p>Expertise > Superior Weapon > Focus [you aren't getting a +3 axe or a +4 blade, so you are increasing damage, not proficiency when going to a superior weapon, for the most part]. The damage bonus is always going to be better than focus.</p><p> </p><p>If you have only simple weapon profs, superior is a much bigger jump. There isn't much choice for +3 prof with simple weapons, so you may actually take a weapon prof before expertise (since you can easily get better prof AND damage with a single feat). There is also reach (if you want a +3 reach weapon, you have to grab a superior weapon).</p><p> </p><p>So, in terms of raw numbers (to hit and damage) it's better than most damage boosting effects (most either stack with focus but are worse that focus, like twf, or they stack and are better, but only in some situations, like vs. prone, etc). Compared to stuff that gives you bonuses to hit (including new ways to get C/A, etc) it's not the best option, but a good one (since it can also increase damage, especially for non-martial prof characters). </p><p> </p><p>With defensive feats, you are generally going to be doing better with those feats BUT, you do have the ability to get a 1-handed weapon that is as good as, or better than, a two-hander which allows you to use a shield. There are also some defensive weapons which stacks with twdefense. For AC, the ability to use a shield, or grab the defensive property is pretty good ... you don't get many other ways to boost AC. For reflex though, there are better feats to improve those defenses.</p><p> </p><p>Evaluating how good they are compared to say improving your healing word, gaining powers from another class, bonus to initiative, riders to your at-wills, etc ... that's harder to evaluate. But for the simple modifier to hit, damage, defense ... it's a pretty solid choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 5566503, member: 63763"] If you have martial proficiencies: Expertise > Superior Weapon > Focus [you aren't getting a +3 axe or a +4 blade, so you are increasing damage, not proficiency when going to a superior weapon, for the most part]. The damage bonus is always going to be better than focus. If you have only simple weapon profs, superior is a much bigger jump. There isn't much choice for +3 prof with simple weapons, so you may actually take a weapon prof before expertise (since you can easily get better prof AND damage with a single feat). There is also reach (if you want a +3 reach weapon, you have to grab a superior weapon). So, in terms of raw numbers (to hit and damage) it's better than most damage boosting effects (most either stack with focus but are worse that focus, like twf, or they stack and are better, but only in some situations, like vs. prone, etc). Compared to stuff that gives you bonuses to hit (including new ways to get C/A, etc) it's not the best option, but a good one (since it can also increase damage, especially for non-martial prof characters). With defensive feats, you are generally going to be doing better with those feats BUT, you do have the ability to get a 1-handed weapon that is as good as, or better than, a two-hander which allows you to use a shield. There are also some defensive weapons which stacks with twdefense. For AC, the ability to use a shield, or grab the defensive property is pretty good ... you don't get many other ways to boost AC. For reflex though, there are better feats to improve those defenses. Evaluating how good they are compared to say improving your healing word, gaining powers from another class, bonus to initiative, riders to your at-wills, etc ... that's harder to evaluate. But for the simple modifier to hit, damage, defense ... it's a pretty solid choice. [/QUOTE]
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