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<blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 5566819" data-attributes="member: 40455"><p>The thing is that "DPR" really doesn't matter as much as people make it out, for one simple reason: There's another human on the other end of the table who can make rational decisions, and usually he isn't going to screw you over if you're taking a beating.</p><p></p><p>I played WoW for a year; I raided hard for a year. In WoW you <strong>need</strong> to do a certain amount of DPS for a boss fight because otherwise you will die; the boss has a berserk timer where he will one-shot everyone if you don't kill him before a certain amount of time (anywhere from 5 minutes for a "DPS Race" fight where damage is all that matters, up to about 10+ minutes for a fight where you can slack on damage due to having to maneuver). In a dungeon now, you need to have a certain amount of damage or your healer will go out of mana and won't be able to heal your tank, and you'll die.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't exist in D&D. If your damage is slacking, the DM should make up for it and not throw monsters that have a truckload of HP at you, or fudge rolls, or make it do stupid/non-optimized things to compensate and even the playing field. D&D monsters don't have to follow a scripted AI and after X minutes it does 10x the damage and wipes (TPKs) everyone.</p><p></p><p>That's one thing the CharOp guys have never gotten through their head; not in 3.5 and not in 4e. Yes, everyone wants to be the guy who pulls out the uber-attack and pulls out insane damage in a single round, but it's not a big deal when the DM can adjust things on the fly to react to situations and throw you a bone if nobody is optimized for a lot of damage. IMO as long as a Striker can dish out a respectable amount of damage, they're good enough. Nobody is running Recount (for those who don't know, Recount is a WoW addon that tracks your DPS, and is basically an e-peen meter used to ridicule people who do under a certain amount at a certain level with a certain spec and certain gear) and calling you a baddie and a scrub and kicking you out of the group for doing under 40DPR or whatever the "ideal" range is at a given time, because the output doesn't matter nearly as much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wayne62682, post: 5566819, member: 40455"] The thing is that "DPR" really doesn't matter as much as people make it out, for one simple reason: There's another human on the other end of the table who can make rational decisions, and usually he isn't going to screw you over if you're taking a beating. I played WoW for a year; I raided hard for a year. In WoW you [b]need[/b] to do a certain amount of DPS for a boss fight because otherwise you will die; the boss has a berserk timer where he will one-shot everyone if you don't kill him before a certain amount of time (anywhere from 5 minutes for a "DPS Race" fight where damage is all that matters, up to about 10+ minutes for a fight where you can slack on damage due to having to maneuver). In a dungeon now, you need to have a certain amount of damage or your healer will go out of mana and won't be able to heal your tank, and you'll die. That doesn't exist in D&D. If your damage is slacking, the DM should make up for it and not throw monsters that have a truckload of HP at you, or fudge rolls, or make it do stupid/non-optimized things to compensate and even the playing field. D&D monsters don't have to follow a scripted AI and after X minutes it does 10x the damage and wipes (TPKs) everyone. That's one thing the CharOp guys have never gotten through their head; not in 3.5 and not in 4e. Yes, everyone wants to be the guy who pulls out the uber-attack and pulls out insane damage in a single round, but it's not a big deal when the DM can adjust things on the fly to react to situations and throw you a bone if nobody is optimized for a lot of damage. IMO as long as a Striker can dish out a respectable amount of damage, they're good enough. Nobody is running Recount (for those who don't know, Recount is a WoW addon that tracks your DPS, and is basically an e-peen meter used to ridicule people who do under a certain amount at a certain level with a certain spec and certain gear) and calling you a baddie and a scrub and kicking you out of the group for doing under 40DPR or whatever the "ideal" range is at a given time, because the output doesn't matter nearly as much. [/QUOTE]
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