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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5567223" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>This is a matter of playstyle. There are some DMs for whom fudging rolls is anathema. There are some groups who go in for the challenge - for instance Fourthcore players or anyone entering the Tomb of Horrors. Such a playstyle is absolutely meant to be a challenge and if the DM were to "even the playing field" it would take the challenge and hence the fun out of things. It would be like discovering you'd beaten someone you'd always wanted to in a competition - but only because he'd let you win. It would feel as if you'd simultaneously cheated and been patronised. Sandbox games are likewise going to kill you if you don't run and aren't strong enough. The monsters are what they are - and if despite the DM's warnings you wander into the wrong area and attack the wrong monster you are going to get creamed (or possibly cheesed). The way the DM makes up for it is to have plenty of things you <em>can</em> do even if you are weaker than expected rather than to fudge and fake in your favour.</p><p> </p><p>Just because you advocate a playstyle in which the PCs always win doesn't mean that this is how everyone plays.</p><p> </p><p>Oh, and you are aware that the DPR challenge on the Char-OP forum is a <em>game?</em> It's intentionally done with rules read to the letter and set situations. At one point one of the serious contenders on the DPR challenge was a mounted warlock using a charge attack with Eldritch Strike and a Polearm. Not something anyone in their senses would do in a real game? Probably not. And the person who submitted it <em>knew</em> this. But as an entry to the challenge it was a good one. However you seem to think that this was BadWrongFun?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5567223, member: 87792"] This is a matter of playstyle. There are some DMs for whom fudging rolls is anathema. There are some groups who go in for the challenge - for instance Fourthcore players or anyone entering the Tomb of Horrors. Such a playstyle is absolutely meant to be a challenge and if the DM were to "even the playing field" it would take the challenge and hence the fun out of things. It would be like discovering you'd beaten someone you'd always wanted to in a competition - but only because he'd let you win. It would feel as if you'd simultaneously cheated and been patronised. Sandbox games are likewise going to kill you if you don't run and aren't strong enough. The monsters are what they are - and if despite the DM's warnings you wander into the wrong area and attack the wrong monster you are going to get creamed (or possibly cheesed). The way the DM makes up for it is to have plenty of things you [I]can[/I] do even if you are weaker than expected rather than to fudge and fake in your favour. Just because you advocate a playstyle in which the PCs always win doesn't mean that this is how everyone plays. Oh, and you are aware that the DPR challenge on the Char-OP forum is a [I]game?[/I] It's intentionally done with rules read to the letter and set situations. At one point one of the serious contenders on the DPR challenge was a mounted warlock using a charge attack with Eldritch Strike and a Polearm. Not something anyone in their senses would do in a real game? Probably not. And the person who submitted it [I]knew[/I] this. But as an entry to the challenge it was a good one. However you seem to think that this was BadWrongFun? [/QUOTE]
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