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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 5567801" data-attributes="member: 40455">Neonchameleon, I don't consider it "badwrongfun" as I've used the CharOp boards myself many times in the past when I want to optimize.  I'm more concerned with the overall mentality I've seen there since the 3.5 days where it's not just a desire to be efficient, but a desire to come as close as possible to breaking the game as one can without actually resorting to dubious rules and interpretations (which are/were the Character Theory forum or whatever it was called, Theoretical Optimization perhaps, that gave rise to the real game-breaking builds).  There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not like WoW where people feel the need to ridicule those who can't pull a certain amount of damage.My point is that you don't have to eke out every tiny miniscule bit of performance because it won't guarantee kill you like in WoW and other MMOs.  Sure, I know the CharOp guys do it mostly as a "What can I achieve within the rules" and I appreciate their efforts as I turn to CharOp all the time for making a build good (although I don't go as far as they do since I do care about flavor), but I see a lot of people who have the WoW-style mentality of "Do at least x damage or you're a scrub" simply because CharOp exists with the mathematically-proven way of getting the most damage - it basically degenerates the game into "Research x, y and z before you sit down to play a class" like WoW is where you are expected to research the ins and outs of your class to establish the optimal gear, spec and normal rotation at sites like EliitistJerks (basically WoW equivalent of CharOp forums) or you are a bad player.  D&D hasn't gotten to that level, but I find CharOp's fascination with eking the most out by any means necessary to tread a dangerous line between optimizing with flavor in mind and taking anything and everything to give a DPR boost, flavor be damned.Does that make more sense now?</blockquote>

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