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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3764339" data-attributes="member: 2011">This is, however, understandable.There are nearly 1000 densely written pages in the 3E core books on a game system that quite frankly, had practically every element of it rewritten and redesigned. The only thing they really kept from 2E to 3E was using a D20 for rolls and the names (and some other continuity) of some classes / spells / items. 3E and 2E mostly only have DND-like flavor in common.I suspect that 4E will have fewer redesigns than 3E did. A lot more than between 3E and 3.5 (which although extensive, were not heavily mechanical in nature), but probably a lot fewer than between 2E and 3E (which were both extensive and nearly all mechanics were changed).3E was, quite frankly, ground breaking and monumental.I do not think 4E will be that ground breaking. Sure, it might have talents like SWSE and new maneuvers and per encounter abilities, but it will probably feel and play a lot closer to 3.5 than 3E did to 2E. The warts will be removed, but the game will feel like DND.So, I am not as concerned with the playtesting aspects of 4E as many people appear to be. I played SWSE and said "Damn. They got right a lot of things that they changed."I do not think SWSE had years of playtesting before it came out and it appears on the surface to be a real solid game system.I suspect the same will be true of 4E. It will be based on solid game systems (3.5 and SWSE), but with many of the problem areas addressed and modified.</blockquote>

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