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Are the 4E previews like turning it up to 11?
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<blockquote data-quote="broghammerj" data-source="post: 3765558" data-attributes="member: 1869"><p>Well, it depends on what you expect. Sure there a ton of facts there, but most of what you posted doesn't give us nuts and bolts. Also most of this stuff is random internet postings that happen to make it to this site (which is a good thing by the way). I am mostly referring to the garbage on the actual WOTC site. If I didn't have access to one of the greatest collection of DND facts on this site then most of the stuff they have released on DND insider wouldn't have told me much of anything.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Roles such as the "leader", into which the warlord and cleric fall [and, presumably, bard, if that class makes it in], won't require the character to stand around doing nothing but making other people better (through songs, or healing), but rather will gain access to those abilities in addition to actions he or she might want to take.</span>- What is a leader....or a warlord for that matter? The bard is in or out so which is it?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Classes can be improved by racial feats, in a similar way to how current racial substitution levels work.</span> Can we see an example</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">"Wizards will be able to cast 25th-level spells." 4E mechanical designer Logan Bonner also comments very briefly on the rumours of 30th level spells -- "Power level corresponds to the character level at which you gain the power."</span> How about actually showing us four spells at 1st, 10th, 20th and 30th.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Wizards have been seen to use a "wizard strike" (twice in a single combat) and a "once-per-day scorch" which blasted three opponents who were lined up in a row. Neither appear to be spells.</span> And these would be what type of powers? It is a fact they exist, but that doesn't give me any insight into how 4E works.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Wizards have a "wizard strike" which injures and pushes foes; warlords have a "tactical acumen" ability which can give bonuses to allies (source).</span>- Any reason why the world would end if they described it in detail like a PHB write up.</p><p></p><p>Clearly we have a difference in opinion on what a decent preview consists of and thats fine. As for someones reference to winning the thread.....well that was never my intent to win a debate. It was to have a discussion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="broghammerj, post: 3765558, member: 1869"] Well, it depends on what you expect. Sure there a ton of facts there, but most of what you posted doesn't give us nuts and bolts. Also most of this stuff is random internet postings that happen to make it to this site (which is a good thing by the way). I am mostly referring to the garbage on the actual WOTC site. If I didn't have access to one of the greatest collection of DND facts on this site then most of the stuff they have released on DND insider wouldn't have told me much of anything. [COLOR=Red]Roles such as the "leader", into which the warlord and cleric fall [and, presumably, bard, if that class makes it in], won't require the character to stand around doing nothing but making other people better (through songs, or healing), but rather will gain access to those abilities in addition to actions he or she might want to take.[/COLOR]- What is a leader....or a warlord for that matter? The bard is in or out so which is it? [COLOR=Red]Classes can be improved by racial feats, in a similar way to how current racial substitution levels work.[/COLOR] Can we see an example [COLOR=Red]"Wizards will be able to cast 25th-level spells." 4E mechanical designer Logan Bonner also comments very briefly on the rumours of 30th level spells -- "Power level corresponds to the character level at which you gain the power."[/COLOR] How about actually showing us four spells at 1st, 10th, 20th and 30th. [COLOR=Red]Wizards have been seen to use a "wizard strike" (twice in a single combat) and a "once-per-day scorch" which blasted three opponents who were lined up in a row. Neither appear to be spells.[/COLOR] And these would be what type of powers? It is a fact they exist, but that doesn't give me any insight into how 4E works. [COLOR=Red]Wizards have a "wizard strike" which injures and pushes foes; warlords have a "tactical acumen" ability which can give bonuses to allies (source).[/COLOR]- Any reason why the world would end if they described it in detail like a PHB write up. Clearly we have a difference in opinion on what a decent preview consists of and thats fine. As for someones reference to winning the thread.....well that was never my intent to win a debate. It was to have a discussion. [/QUOTE]
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