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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 3407740" data-attributes="member: 5889">I general I think multiclassing can handle most archetype needs, there isn't a lot that can't be worked out with a few classes and a little imagination. That said, there are some real gems to be found in the new base classes.I think the warlock hit upon an archetype completely lacking in the core. Its the real sorceror, not the wizard-light that the regular sorc is. The scout is a solid wilderness...scout, though I think a bit underpowered at high levels. The duskblade is a good attempt at a fighter mage. This is one area where multiclassing drops the ball, a straight up fighter type/arcane spell caster just doesn't cut the mustard.And then there are others which I see little need for. What's the point of the warmage? An evoker or a sorc packing empower spell can pretty much do what a warmage does. And of course, lets not even get started on the samuari<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>