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Are the new trip rules broken?
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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1185840" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>Improved Trip - especially in the hands of Druids - is completely overpowered now.</p><p></p><p>They adjusted it too far in 3.5. It used to be that Tripping was a valid tactic for very low level characters and for tripping specialists - who had invested in Improved Trip, the Wolf's Trip ability or even Knockdown. Tripping was an invalid tactic for everyone else.</p><p></p><p>In 3.5, they made it so that Tripping was a valid tactic for mid-to-high level characters with no feat investment at all. But the changes they made were cumulative with the feats, which you can still take.</p><p></p><p>So now anyone who performs a trip is in about the same place as people who had improved trip in 3rd edition. People <em>with</em> Improved Trip are obscene. Improved Trip Fighters were not underpowered before - and now they are overpowered.</p><p></p><p>How "broken" that is will depend entirely upon what sorts of monsters you face. For example: enemy wizards don't care whether they are standing up or lying down, so tripping is a pretty pointless tactic against them; and gargantuan dragons are still pretty much impossible to knock over, regardless of who you are.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1185840, member: 14225"] Improved Trip - especially in the hands of Druids - is completely overpowered now. They adjusted it too far in 3.5. It used to be that Tripping was a valid tactic for very low level characters and for tripping specialists - who had invested in Improved Trip, the Wolf's Trip ability or even Knockdown. Tripping was an invalid tactic for everyone else. In 3.5, they made it so that Tripping was a valid tactic for mid-to-high level characters with no feat investment at all. But the changes they made were cumulative with the feats, which you can still take. So now anyone who performs a trip is in about the same place as people who had improved trip in 3rd edition. People [i]with[/i] Improved Trip are obscene. Improved Trip Fighters were not underpowered before - and now they are overpowered. How "broken" that is will depend entirely upon what sorts of monsters you face. For example: enemy wizards don't care whether they are standing up or lying down, so tripping is a pretty pointless tactic against them; and gargantuan dragons are still pretty much impossible to knock over, regardless of who you are. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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