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Are the older melee classes getting less attractive/obsolete?
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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6371456" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Yeah, the disadvantage to releasing new stuff is the desire to make it "more interesting" than the old stuff, where "more interesting" usually equals "more powerful" or "better focused". </p><p></p><p>The core rulebook of Pathfinder is more or less balanced (I still have a hard timing seeing the monk and druid in the same book and calling it "balanced") but later books have started to invalidate other classes (much like how later 3.5 classes invalidated the PHB classes). While some of the previous classes have nibbled on the heels of other classes (such as cavalier being a great fighter replacement), my sense/fear is that the ACG straight up can out-gun the PHB classes in their respective niches (an arcanist is equal to or better than a sorcerer, a warpriest replaces a cleric, a brawler outfights a monk, etc) and that mixed with the APG and UC/UM, you don't even NEED the core rulebook classes anymore so much so you need the unchained book to up the power of some of those classes and the power level further climbs. </p><p></p><p>With 5e, I think subclasses will be the primary "expansion" area which makes it easier to work since it only has a half-dozen expansion areas and doesn't invalidate the core of the classes. I'm hopeful that gives a wide variety of expansion without making classes like warblade or bloodrager or seeker ever again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 6371456, member: 7635"] Yeah, the disadvantage to releasing new stuff is the desire to make it "more interesting" than the old stuff, where "more interesting" usually equals "more powerful" or "better focused". The core rulebook of Pathfinder is more or less balanced (I still have a hard timing seeing the monk and druid in the same book and calling it "balanced") but later books have started to invalidate other classes (much like how later 3.5 classes invalidated the PHB classes). While some of the previous classes have nibbled on the heels of other classes (such as cavalier being a great fighter replacement), my sense/fear is that the ACG straight up can out-gun the PHB classes in their respective niches (an arcanist is equal to or better than a sorcerer, a warpriest replaces a cleric, a brawler outfights a monk, etc) and that mixed with the APG and UC/UM, you don't even NEED the core rulebook classes anymore so much so you need the unchained book to up the power of some of those classes and the power level further climbs. With 5e, I think subclasses will be the primary "expansion" area which makes it easier to work since it only has a half-dozen expansion areas and doesn't invalidate the core of the classes. I'm hopeful that gives a wide variety of expansion without making classes like warblade or bloodrager or seeker ever again. [/QUOTE]
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