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Are the Scarlet bro's and Iuz holding GREYHAWK back?
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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 3554569" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>Darn skippy! QFT.</p><p></p><p>I read the OP as imagining what can be done to help the _published_ setting, rendering irrelevant the "you can do this or that in your campaign" sort of responses.</p><p></p><p>In the published setting, Iuz sucks the oxygen from the room for other villains. FtA actually expanded this sucking effect - no more Horned Society, the BKs compromised. Two nice villain/adventure generators were either destroyed or second guessed to make Iuz a bigger baddie. The problem is that bigger baddie cum LLG is just sitting there taking up space, to say nothing of his, by now, having become old hat. Again, this is in the published setting.</p><p></p><p>The Scarlet Brotherhood is even worse. They were cool, secret plotters composed of thieves, assassins and monks. FtA outted them and there is not a closet big enough for them to ever get back inside. They virtually control the southern seas and actually control or struggle to retain control is several former independent countries. The worst effect of the SB was the destruction of the independence of the Hold of the Sea Princes, one of GH's best adventure incubators. It is now compromised by the SB, even worse than the BKs are compromised by Iuz.</p><p></p><p>So, yeah. The OP is, IMO, right on target.</p><p></p><p>I'd go father and add Turrosh Mak and the lame Orcish Empire of the Pomarj which compromised the greatest adventure incubator of the Flanaess - the Wild Coast. Turrosh needs his Mak handed to him on the way to the dust bin of GH history.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 3554569, member: 33060"] Darn skippy! QFT. I read the OP as imagining what can be done to help the _published_ setting, rendering irrelevant the "you can do this or that in your campaign" sort of responses. In the published setting, Iuz sucks the oxygen from the room for other villains. FtA actually expanded this sucking effect - no more Horned Society, the BKs compromised. Two nice villain/adventure generators were either destroyed or second guessed to make Iuz a bigger baddie. The problem is that bigger baddie cum LLG is just sitting there taking up space, to say nothing of his, by now, having become old hat. Again, this is in the published setting. The Scarlet Brotherhood is even worse. They were cool, secret plotters composed of thieves, assassins and monks. FtA outted them and there is not a closet big enough for them to ever get back inside. They virtually control the southern seas and actually control or struggle to retain control is several former independent countries. The worst effect of the SB was the destruction of the independence of the Hold of the Sea Princes, one of GH's best adventure incubators. It is now compromised by the SB, even worse than the BKs are compromised by Iuz. So, yeah. The OP is, IMO, right on target. I'd go father and add Turrosh Mak and the lame Orcish Empire of the Pomarj which compromised the greatest adventure incubator of the Flanaess - the Wild Coast. Turrosh needs his Mak handed to him on the way to the dust bin of GH history. [/QUOTE]
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