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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 3489849" data-attributes="member: 2205">Whichever it is of the Fiendish Codices that summarizes the concepts even seem to hint that the Wind Dukes precede such basic creatures as demons and devils, and even such concepts as good and evil, and hence the Great Wheel as we know it was probably in a much more primitive and primeval state.I think the idea of the Vaati creating either the inevitables or the modrons certainly could be plausible.  Although, honestly, I like the idea of them creating the inevitables more.  I'm kinda with Erik Mona's beginning on the April issue of Dragon--they fit in April because while they're not funny per se, they're also not very serious.  I mean really; the very idea of the modrons is pretty dang silly, and even the designers who have worked on them and developed them seem to agree with that idea.</blockquote>