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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5319298" data-attributes="member: 52734">Having just gotten the 4E Starter set (and being disappointed with it), I'm hoping for something like the Moldvay/Cook basic set.&nbsp; A nice introduction, but enough meat that you can make characters from scratch (the choose-your-own-adventure characters of the 4E starter are too cookie-cutter for my taste) and covering at least 3 levels of play (though 5 would be nice).I'd rank the Dragon Age starter as a good model as well - it was really what I was hoping for from the 4E set.I think if I were designing it, it would flow as thus:Player Book&nbsp;- Intro to the game (what is this thing in your hands?)&nbsp;- Short Story introduction (maybe a page long, with several &quot;what would you have done?&quot; sidebars)&nbsp;- Character creation rules&nbsp;-- Races (Dwarf, Elf, Gnome, Human)&nbsp;-- Classes (Fighter, Rogue, Cleric, Wizard, Bard [or another &quot;5th person&quot; class])&nbsp;- Equipment&nbsp;- Game Rules&nbsp;- &quot;Try it yourself&quot; scenarioHand-Out Pamplet(s)- photocopyable Character Sheet- Feat/Background/Trait list (as an advanced topic)*- Spell listGameMaster's Book&nbsp;- What is a gamemaster, and what is he/she responsible for&nbsp;- Organizing a game&nbsp;- Game Rules&nbsp;- Monster List&nbsp;- Adventure Samples&nbsp;- Introduction to Golarion&nbsp;- Downloadable adventure couponDice, Blank battlemat or poster sheet and counters* &quot;Once you understand the basic game, additions like Feats, Backgrounds and Traits help you to further customize your character.&nbsp; They're a standard part of the full Pathfinder game, but while you're still learning the game, you might want wait to use these at a point after your understand the game better.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 5319298, member: 52734"] Having just gotten the 4E Starter set (and being disappointed with it), I'm hoping for something like the Moldvay/Cook basic set. A nice introduction, but enough meat that you can make characters from scratch (the choose-your-own-adventure characters of the 4E starter are too cookie-cutter for my taste) and covering at least 3 levels of play (though 5 would be nice). I'd rank the Dragon Age starter as a good model as well - it was really what I was hoping for from the 4E set. I think if I were designing it, it would flow as thus: Player Book - Intro to the game (what is this thing in your hands?) - Short Story introduction (maybe a page long, with several "what would you have done?" sidebars) - Character creation rules -- Races (Dwarf, Elf, Gnome, Human) -- Classes (Fighter, Rogue, Cleric, Wizard, Bard [or another "5th person" class]) - Equipment - Game Rules - "Try it yourself" scenario Hand-Out Pamplet(s) - photocopyable Character Sheet - Feat/Background/Trait list (as an advanced topic)* - Spell list GameMaster's Book - What is a gamemaster, and what is he/she responsible for - Organizing a game - Game Rules - Monster List - Adventure Samples - Introduction to Golarion - Downloadable adventure coupon Dice, Blank battlemat or poster sheet and counters * "Once you understand the basic game, additions like Feats, Backgrounds and Traits help you to further customize your character. They're a standard part of the full Pathfinder game, but while you're still learning the game, you might want wait to use these at a point after your understand the game better." [/QUOTE]

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